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this hope radiates for the masses as

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lino between July 8 1947

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applying this has been found and is now

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in the possession of the RA the game is

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rigged changed the game changer I

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occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide would vanish if we

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were facing an alien threat from outside

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this is baked and black with your host

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network and K GRA the Global Radio

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I need your help to get to the year 1985

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you are listening to fade to black with

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and how you doing it's Monday October

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in the middle of beautiful downtown

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Burbank California and I would like to

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welcome everybody listening all around

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the world

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the united states hither and thither to

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and fro back and forth up and down east

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this is fade to black for kjc are the

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I am your host Jimmy Church

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what is crack and everybody how you

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tonight is night number one of our

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Halloween week

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and tonight we have with us Jason Lou is

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we're gonna talk about witches warlocks

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goblins via cults in the history of

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Halloween tomorrow night Maureen wood

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will be sharing her favorite ghost

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stories with us she has a new book out

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the more ghost chronicles so that'll be

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the moon which is here for our fifth

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Halloween night special event and when

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sha is here she does three card tarot

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readings all night long BAM absolutely

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amazing back to back to back and we

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averaged about a hundred calls each

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night that sha is with us so if you want

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experience what is happening with that

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and and to have back to back to back to

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back to back phone calls so get ready

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alright everybody says it's fine now

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everything is fine leaving here okay

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there's nothing I can do so moving on

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that is Wednesday night Thursday nights

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is Adrienne Valera is going to be here

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and we're gonna talk about the

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that we have a full week here on fade to

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absolutely so much fun and it's it's all

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about Halloween so let's let's get this

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started now on stellar was down of

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a part of the day today they are working

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on it now they don't know what the

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go but there they are working on it you

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can also follow us on twitter at jay

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turks radio facebook is very simple you

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can head over there and and follow our

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radio page and like that and of course

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youtube and it's all easy to do go to

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like and subscribe right there

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and of course twitter is at a church

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radio hashtag F to B is the sandbox a

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tonight and you can do all of that right

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there and let's see where else am I at

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hashtag F to be Q is fade to black

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questions you can also email Jimmy Jimmy

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happy birthday to Geoff shod over at

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River Moon coffee and Jeff also plays a

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case you didn't know which makes him the

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birthday Jeff also in breaking news they

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right now at River Moon coffee calm

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alright and that promo code is superfood

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now now there's other breaking news

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there's a mess going on

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right now the Italian UFO group is si UN

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hosted a presentation in Rome two days

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ago on October 27th with Tom DeLonge of

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to the stars Academy of Arts and

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Sciences and Luis Elizondo on a tip now

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Elizondo discussed some UFO history

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including the famous 1952 Washington DC

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saucer event over the Capitol and he is

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quoted as saying and I'm quoting here

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this is air quotes I'm quoting in the

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early 1950s the United States had

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another very significant event over our

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nation's capital once again these

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objects were identified both with the

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naked eye and again on radar and unlike

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Roswell many people had cameras and were

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able to take photographs and what you

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see here are real photographs along with

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the story the headline story that came

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the bad news here is Elizondo was wrong

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there were no pictures taken the capital

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event or no pictures published everybody

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knows that that is ufology 101 everybody

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knows that there were no pictures taken

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over the capitol that day that night

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except for luis Elizondo and elizondo's

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pictures in his presentation came from

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the internet and he did this slide and

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that slide in his presentation was

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picture lens flare from UFOs this secret

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now I've seen the video I've seen the

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video from the conference and I've got

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to say this ain't good

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TTS a can't continue to make these kinds

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of mistakes and quite frankly there's no

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John Greenwald of the black vault has an

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excellent report posted and I tweeted it

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out earlier today but this this kind of

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stuff in in in ufology for our community

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it cannot continue it can't happen

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it just can't it is a bad bad situation

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so there you go go check out the black

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everything and the video oh man

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it's bad it's bad

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this tu-tu-tu-tu-tu-tu I don't know

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what's going on with what you guys are

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listening to talk stream is running fine

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YouTube is running fine I don't know I

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don't know what what the issues are but

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it's it's not here and I can go and try

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to reset but everything here is fine ok

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all right

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happy birthday to today Winona Ryder is

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47 years old Beetlejuice Zoolander and

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of course stranger things and our dead

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guys birthday today is Bob Ross 1942 to

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1995 died at the age of 52 American

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painter and a host of Public televisions

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the joy of painting his famous perm came

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out when he needed to save money and he

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spring of 1994 which eventually forced

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to retire the final episode of the joy

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of painting aired on may 17th 1994 he

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on this day in history

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OT D 1971 Duane Allman guitarist and

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leader of the Allman Brothers Band is

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killed on this day in 1971 when he loses

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control of his harley-davidson Sportster

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and drives into the side of a flatbed

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truck in Macon Georgia he was just 24

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painting Bob Ross created a

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monochromatic landscape for a viewer who

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paint right there you go there's your

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fader fact Bob Ross have you heard mrs.

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Smith's song Bob Ross you guys check

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that out somebody needs to post up the

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links to her video for Bob Ross is

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pretty cool and she also mrs. Smith has

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another video on how to play Bob Ross

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alright so you can go and check that out

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right now over at mrs. Smith calm

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tonight is night number one of our

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Halloween week and tonight we have with

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us Jason Lou van we're going to talk

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about witches warlocks goblins right the

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occult and the history of Halloween

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tomorrow night Maureen wood is here

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she's got a new book out with her

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co-author called more ghost chronicles

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it's ghost chronicles part 2 and

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tomorrow night Maureen is gonna share

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with us here her favorite ghost stories

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perfect way to spend your Halloween

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height number two here with us and then

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Wednesday night of course

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sha the Loon which she's here for our

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fifth annual Halloween night special

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event and then Thursday night Adrianne

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Valera's gonna be here from disclosure

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fest

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gonna talk about the Washington DC mass

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meditation we've got a whole night of

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special guests lined up on Thursday so

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get ready for that and now let me let me

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just say this let me say this all right

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hang on

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hit this river moon coffee so here we

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are here we are it's another Halloween

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week here on fade to black and I say

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this all the time I say this every

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Halloween but Halloween is my favorite

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time of the year it's my favorite

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celebration but then again I say that

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about Thanksgiving Thanksgiving is my

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favorite holiday or Memorial Day or

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Labor Day weekend right Independence Day

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Groundhog Day Christmas and it's because

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I try to remain objective offend anybody

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out there and not to show many

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favoritism or endorsements to any

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holiday or celebration right I've got to

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I've got to run down the middle and

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that's you know that treat them all

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equal right and it just bothers me that

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I have to do that this politically

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correct world we live in today that's

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right how did we get here so yeah you

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know what forget all that back to

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Halloween when when I look back

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throughout the years of my childhood

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there were some great Christmas mornings

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there are some great Easter baskets

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right and I get that sure but but every

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Halloween kicked butt every single one I

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never had a bad Halloween right I never

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except for maybe one of those

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Halloween's where I didn't get to trade

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the right candy with my brother Mike but

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but I never had a bad Halloween you see

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it's the celebration where you're

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supposed to be wrong it's the most wrong

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ggest you're supposed to have the wrong

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list of costumes you're supposed to have

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some fun right you want to be able to go

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to a Halloween party you want to be able

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to knock on a door and you know so many

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answers or if somebody comes up to you

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at a party and says what are you right

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who are you

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well I'm the dead Gandhi and somebody

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says cool you know wish I would have

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thought of that ah man

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maybe next year right I remember back in

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1993

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my best friend Rob Casares and I went to

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a Halloween party here in Hollywood and

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I remember specifically we went to a

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Halloween party for a record company in

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Santa Monica right like the Venice Beach

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area Santa Monica nice apartment

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whatever condo top floor roof that's

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what I remember but it was out there you

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know by the beach nice area and we went

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to this Halloween party as the Menendez

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that's right we were wearing Izod

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sweaters tennis shorts tennis rackets I

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think one of us have a shotgun fake

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money coming out of everywhere and we

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were covered in blood yeah poor TV was

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airing the trial back then live every

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day which meant that nobody said hey who

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are you

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no never happened not even once

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everybody got it right everybody got it

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it was funny stuff for sure you know and

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it was it was great laughs and it was a

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great night everybody got it and loved

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it but could we do something like that

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today

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probably not could you imagine for a

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second today you know that somebody

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would dress up like a bloody Kavanagh

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[Laughter]

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just just me saying that right now is

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causing outrage and I'm probably already

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getting emails seriously it's kind of

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funny though if you think about it

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there there are a few things that I will

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stand up for and one of them is

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Halloween putting out a costume plotting

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out which neighborhood is best right to

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go and fill up a giant bag full of candy

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and getting all jacked up on sugar for

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the next month is a god-given right

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right and it's it's just it's just the

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way that it is a blood-covered nurse

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that's evil a blood-covered angel that's

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evil to blood-covered witch that's the

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evilest of evil a happy devil a happy

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goblin freddy krueger all evil you know

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and you got a look at it this way I I

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don't get it you know you're out you're

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home knock at the door you're outside

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giving away candy and and you know and

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you say you know what a cute costume

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what are you and the little

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three-year-old girl looks up you know

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holding up her bag and she says I'm a

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unicorn you know and there's some to

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fits out there that's gonna say that's

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offensive 12 the unicorns of the world

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on this evil night that sends the wrong

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message to our children and I just don't

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get it so to all of you out there who

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are gonna shut off your porch lights and

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not hand out candy and not dress up and

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and head out to a party enjoy your

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boring evening I'm gonna dress up like

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fat dead Elvis and I'm gonna munch down

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Snickers and sweet tarts until I puke

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and I'm probably gonna do it live on the

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air because I don't care you gotta love

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this great country of ours you see I

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just don't do negativity I won't do it

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I'm not gonna participate in it our time

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on this planet is short and it's very

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precious enjoy every minute of it every

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second today I learned that a friend

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Willy bass passed away he died he died

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of cancer and he fought hard over the

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last few years we were the same age

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you know we toured this country and and

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spend a lot of time together we were

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partners we had a recording studio

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together but I'm still here he's gone

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and I'm sure that right now he would

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have given anything for a few more

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seconds a few more minutes and there are

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people out there right now right now as

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I speak who want to waste their precious

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time with being negative not enjoying

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Halloween not having fun posting stuff

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and being negative and just craziness in

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this world and I just don't get it but

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I'm not gonna waste my time I don't get

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involved I just don't do it and you can

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ask anybody who's ever hung out with me

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on Halloween or any day of the year as

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soon as things a conversation whatever

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turns negative I get uncomfortable I

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squirm I just don't dig it and I'll walk

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away I lead by example

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and sure sure I say these things but no

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one can ever say that I've posted I've

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email I tweeted or texted hate or

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negativity because I just don't do it

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and I just don't like it I don't dig it

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so this week is Halloween week you know

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it's an opportunity for all of us just

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to forget all of the craziness of this

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world to escape for a few hours each

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night where we get to thumb our nose to

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everyone and have some fun doing it

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hopefully all jacked up on sugar

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seriously I just don't do the negativity

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and I know I know that there are some

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out there that are expecting me to

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respond or to say something or to you

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know and we went through another weekend

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of negativity and and not only not only

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in the world

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old we had a horrible tragic shooting in

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Pittsburgh at a synagogue

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we the the the male pipe bomber dude got

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arrested in Florida all right

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crazy negativity all week and then we

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had all the crazy negativity in our

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community when people are expecting me

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to respond her to say something and I'm

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just not gonna do it I don't respond I

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don't care I don't read I just don't do

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it this show was set up for one thing

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and one thing only for us to have a fun

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conversation figure things out and ask

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questions about what's going on in the

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in in this world of ours with UFOs and

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in conspiracy theory and in life after

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death and ghosts and time travel in

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Egypt and Machu Picchu

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that's what how about gobekli tepe

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that's what I that's what I care about I

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there are people out there that actually

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waste their time and I don't do it so

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don't expect me to respond because I

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have nothing to say on the issue nothing

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so with that I'm gonna get out of here

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I'm gonna reset this audio for everybody

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your host Jimmy church tonight is night

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one of our Halloween week here on fade

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to black

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we've got Jason move here with us

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tomorrow night I want to remind

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everybody we've got a big week lined up

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tomorrow night mullrine wood is going to

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be here sharing her favorite ghost

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stories from her new book more ghost

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chronicles Wednesday night shabd the

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Loon which for our fifth annual five

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straight years of sha here on Halloween

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doing your readings a hundred phone

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calls a hundred readings back to back to

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back to back to back it's going to be an

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amazing night we shot and then Thursday

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night Adrienne Valera is gonna be here

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from disclosure fest to talk about the

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Washington DC mass meditation going down

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on 1111 at 11:00 11:00 at the Lincoln

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Memorial there in Washington DC but

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tonight's jasonlew Jason is the author

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of eight books including John D and the

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Empire of Angels generation hex and the

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00:33:10,780 --> 00:33:08,870
psychic Bible as a journalist he has

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covered surveillance international trade

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in the dark side of technology for vice

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00:33:17,620 --> 00:33:15,680
news Boeing Boeing motherboard and many

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more and as a futurist and a strategist

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he has worked on Buzz Aldrin's

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international campaign to colonize Mars

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Google's artificial intelligence program

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and many more strange wonderful places

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but it's the start of Halloween week

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here on fade to black and tonight we're

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gonna talk about witches warlocks magic

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the occult and the history of Halloween

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his website of course is Jason lucam

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and you can follow him on twitter at

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jasonlew I like to welcome back to fade

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to black the one and only Jason lewb

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Jason good evening man Jimmy how's it

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going man it's great now that I hear

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your voice thanks for having me back on

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you know it's it's been about a month we

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had you over at coast to coast which was

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absolutely amazing and you did four

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straight hours on the air why was that

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four hours yeah yeah we it flew by I

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have so much fun hanging out with you

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it was it goes in a blink of an eye it's

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pretty cool to get exposed to something

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like that to see you know what a studio

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like that is and and you know you're the

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biggest network in the world and all of

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that for you that's cool

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for me because you get to see how uh you

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know the production goes down and it's

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it's cool it's fun but for me to have

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you there for four hours live 101 on one

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and two take phone calls and to engage

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in conversation it's the best cuz

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normally I'm there by myself and I had a

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great time so thank you for that and you

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went to the bloody end man it was pretty

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cool yeah thank you that was fun now

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here we are now okay this is what I'm

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can I say something crazy I'm gonna

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start off I'm gonna start off like this

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Jason you've written a lot about magic

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and the occult and I know you I've hung

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out with you I've seen you in person and

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in your pictures when you talk about in

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some of your presentations too when you

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talk about magic and you're talking

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about the occult or you're talking about

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John Dee and you'd look at you your

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image you have a little your little

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warlock ish I deny everything I'm just a

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normal boy from you know Southern

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California there's nothing strange or

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out of the ordinary about me in the

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slightest exactly and so with when

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people see you and you're talking about

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this and you're writing about this they

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look at your picture mark well yeah okay

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makes sense you know he's got he's got a

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little it's got a little something going

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on there did you always have that look

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and are you cognizant of the look I know

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I'm absolutely I'm completely unselfish

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I it must be something that you know is

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just just there maybe it's some type of

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you know something strange radiating in

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my aura from all the weird things that

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I've done but no and you know from my

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corner of the universe I seem perfectly

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normal and mundane even but me

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other people see me you know do you have

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a giant pentagram tattooed on your back

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it I have two giant pentagrams actually

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one one up right and no I actually have

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no I have no tattoos I'm very I'm very

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normal and boring Jimmy I like you know

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I kind of just like watch Netflix and

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you know and cook and summon creatures

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from the nether world and you know

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you've got a cauldron yeah I haven't I

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have an instant pot that's like a

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cauldron right well you know why for I

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think some witches probably use a crock

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pot for these days that you know it

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certainly saves on a lot of things well

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but here we are what is Halloween for

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you I mean I love I love Halloween I

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love this time of the year I love the

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smell I love October you know and it

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goes back to my childhood for you what

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is Halloween for you well first of all

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every day is Halloween when when you're

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meeting but no I I think that Halloween

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for me is the one day that our society

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allows things to be a little fuzzy

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around the edges it's the one day that

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we're allowed to let down our guard a

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little bit and maybe entertain the idea

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of other ideas about reality the idea of

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another world the you know the the veil

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between the worlds becoming thin and I

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think that has always been really

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fascinating for me and like you I love

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the holiday and I love this the smells

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and the experience and just that autumn

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feeling but even more than that I loved

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it that's the day that our society lets

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down its guard because the guard is all

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the way up every other single day of the

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year and you know we live in a very

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sterilized society sometimes we live in

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a society that you know in which flights

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of the imagination or seen as not

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productive or not helpful for society

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and so but our society allows this one

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pressure release where we can have this

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one day where

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just go wild you know and and entertain

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the idea of magic and spirits and the

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crazy the kernel of it the craziest

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thing about that for me is that really

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what is being pressure-release there is

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the whole ancient pagan world it's it's

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it's the natural state of humanity when

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we were immersed in the idea of spirits

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and magic and and immersion in that

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level of reality before all of that was

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paved over by first you know the

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domination of Christianity and then the

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scientific worldview and now the hyper

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00:39:14,900 --> 00:39:12,390
technological world all of that is like

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layers of pavement over what's really

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are innate Nate you know our innate

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nature are an eight-way of being this

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kind of shamanic animistic you know

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tribal worldview and it's always there

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it never goes away of course some of us

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you know love that so much that we

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decide to immerse ourselves in in that

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00:39:37,789 --> 00:39:35,970
type of thinking our whole lives but you

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know it's it can never be covered over

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just like you know of course Christian

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of course Halloween is a Christian

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Christianization of an older pagan

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holiday just like all of our holidays

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and that's always fascinated me so I

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love that it's a pressure-release and we

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get to we get to we get to play that day

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with the freedom that Halloween brings

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us which is not not which is which is

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the ability to to dress up to have fun

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to go to parties to dress up

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let let our kids and our children have

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fun and freedom of expression and you

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00:40:22,460 --> 00:40:19,890
know maybe somebody who wants to dress

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up as a zebra somebody wants to dress up

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00:40:26,839 --> 00:40:24,599
as a Star Wars character somebody wants

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00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:26,849
to be a witch right somebody who wants

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to be a sexy nurse whatever it it

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doesn't matter right you're supposed to

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have this freedom of expression and now

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we're in this PC a politically correct

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world and even Halloween isn't isn't

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cool anymore and I just don't get it

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isn't it supposed to be that one time

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are

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nothing matters and we're allowed to

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just let everything hang free yeah

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totally but I think for that reason

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Halloween has always been terrifying to

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people you know it's it's the day it's

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the night of the year where you know

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parents kind of let their children go

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out to to go trick-or-treating or maybe

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they don't maybe they don't even do that

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anymore you know hi the way things are

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now but you know we live in such a

749
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controlled and fearful society that yeah

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I mean it's you know can we even let our

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hair down that much I think that you're

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connecting it to the idea of free

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00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:24,630
expression is really important I mean we

754
00:41:29,900 --> 00:41:27,290
live in a society now where people are

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00:41:31,340 --> 00:41:29,910
you know they are have the ability to

756
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:31,350
communicate all over the world but they

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00:41:35,300 --> 00:41:33,090
have to second and triple and quadruple

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00:41:37,310 --> 00:41:35,310
guess everything they say in public and

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every tweet and you know anything you

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00:41:41,510 --> 00:41:39,300
can say anything you say at anytime can

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00:41:44,150 --> 00:41:41,520
can it will be held against you you know

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so we live in a culture that's quite you

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know has the ability to be have total

764
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freedom of expression but is is also

765
00:41:55,610 --> 00:41:51,840
very very paranoid about you know saying

766
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just the right thing and you know again

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00:42:00,140 --> 00:41:58,530
to bring it back to the ancient world if

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00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:00,150
you look at things like the Roman Empire

769
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or or or or similar things even the

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Middle Ages there were always holidays

771
00:42:10,370 --> 00:42:08,040
there were there were lots and lots of

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00:42:12,410 --> 00:42:10,380
days where people were allowed to just

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00:42:14,420 --> 00:42:12,420
let it all out and that was important

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because for instance in the Middle Ages

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life was short and hard and full of work

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and suffering and disease and fear and

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and and for that reason holidays were

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00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:28,070
really important and people needed

779
00:42:34,370 --> 00:42:31,770
opportunities to go wild to get drunk to

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00:42:37,130 --> 00:42:34,380
you know to put on masks masks of course

781
00:42:41,330 --> 00:42:37,140
allow you to be your true self and let

782
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:41,340
down the escape in many ways what is a

783
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:43,650
straitjacket put on us by society which

784
00:42:49,550 --> 00:42:46,010
is you know having to conform to

785
00:42:51,260 --> 00:42:49,560
society's expectations of us so that's

786
00:42:53,420 --> 00:42:51,270
very very healthy it's important I think

787
00:42:56,630 --> 00:42:53,430
in in this country for instance it's why

788
00:42:57,650 --> 00:42:56,640
people go to Burning Man and festivals

789
00:43:00,500 --> 00:42:57,660
like that because they need that

790
00:43:02,089 --> 00:43:00,510
pressure pressure release and I think

791
00:43:05,059 --> 00:43:02,099
that's very very healthy

792
00:43:08,539 --> 00:43:05,069
for a society to have and you know

793
00:43:10,430 --> 00:43:08,549
whether it's Halloween or or whatever it

794
00:43:13,279 --> 00:43:10,440
happens to be Burning Man or whatever it

795
00:43:15,739 --> 00:43:13,289
happens to be I think it's very very

796
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:15,749
psychologically healthy for people to be

797
00:43:22,009 --> 00:43:19,170
able to take off the mask you know

798
00:43:24,460 --> 00:43:22,019
ironically when we put on a mask we are

799
00:43:26,569 --> 00:43:24,470
able to take off the mask of our of our

800
00:43:28,849 --> 00:43:26,579
day-to-day personality and I think

801
00:43:32,989 --> 00:43:28,859
that's very healthy for people there is

802
00:43:39,829 --> 00:43:32,999
a street in Venice in Venice Beach where

803
00:43:43,759 --> 00:43:39,839
all of the houses all on Halloween it's

804
00:43:44,839 --> 00:43:43,769
they are I guess you could say that

805
00:43:47,029 --> 00:43:44,849
everybody's in the entertainment

806
00:43:49,219 --> 00:43:47,039
industry they're there in the movie

807
00:43:52,130 --> 00:43:49,229
mystery special-effects costumes

808
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:52,140
directors actors right and it's you know

809
00:43:57,769 --> 00:43:54,410
it's a couple of blocks and they all

810
00:44:01,599 --> 00:43:57,779
participate in the craziest haunted

811
00:44:03,710 --> 00:44:01,609
house thing you know walking up the

812
00:44:05,749 --> 00:44:03,720
special-effects ever it's it's totally

813
00:44:08,450 --> 00:44:05,759
cool it's so much fun and it's

814
00:44:11,089 --> 00:44:08,460
jam-packed with families right and we're

815
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:11,099
there and I'm trying to think our

816
00:44:16,609 --> 00:44:13,410
daughters were probably at that time

817
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:16,619
eight years old and and we take them

818
00:44:21,620 --> 00:44:19,890
down there Rita and I we get down to the

819
00:44:28,509 --> 00:44:21,630
end of the street around the corner and

820
00:44:31,609 --> 00:44:28,519
they have a guillotine crazy crazy giant

821
00:44:33,079 --> 00:44:31,619
guillotine and they go I'm standing

822
00:44:34,430 --> 00:44:33,089
there and I got you know I'm holding

823
00:44:35,839 --> 00:44:34,440
both of my daughter's hands and there

824
00:44:36,950 --> 00:44:35,849
were trick-or-treating and doing all the

825
00:44:39,049 --> 00:44:36,960
stuff I'm looking at this guillotine

826
00:44:40,219 --> 00:44:39,059
which is like 30 feet tall like a you

827
00:44:43,519 --> 00:44:40,229
know or real guillotine

828
00:44:45,589 --> 00:44:43,529
dude steps up throws his head down on

829
00:44:48,529 --> 00:44:45,599
the thing right the the blade comes down

830
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:48,539
chops his head off the head goes rolling

831
00:44:57,499 --> 00:44:51,930
down this thing and into a bucket right

832
00:45:01,009 --> 00:44:57,509
blood and I was like oh my god you know

833
00:45:03,589 --> 00:45:01,019
and everybody's freaking out now it was

834
00:45:05,359 --> 00:45:03,599
pretty cool specialists ill you have to

835
00:45:09,979 --> 00:45:05,369
ask Rita to I don't know how they pulled

836
00:45:13,759 --> 00:45:09,989
it off man it was really really cool is

837
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:13,769
that wrong I'm asking is that wrong and

838
00:45:17,780 --> 00:45:15,810
I'm telling I'm standing there with my

839
00:45:24,980 --> 00:45:17,790
year old kids and I thought it was real

840
00:45:27,260 --> 00:45:24,990
now it what do you think well I think I

841
00:45:29,030 --> 00:45:27,270
think it's healthy as long as it's not

842
00:45:31,010 --> 00:45:29,040
actually real you know it's like it's

843
00:45:31,850 --> 00:45:31,020
it's interesting that you you know what

844
00:45:34,190 --> 00:45:31,860
came to me and when you were talking

845
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:34,200
about this is this is kind of what

846
00:45:38,540 --> 00:45:36,570
people want to do well I don't want to

847
00:45:41,030 --> 00:45:38,550
say what people want to do but you know

848
00:45:44,150 --> 00:45:41,040
there's always an element of society of

849
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:44,160
you know people are there's resentment

850
00:45:49,250 --> 00:45:46,770
you know that the rich people fear poor

851
00:45:51,260 --> 00:45:49,260
people poor people despise rich people

852
00:45:52,820 --> 00:45:51,270
so I think it's very healthy whether

853
00:45:55,430 --> 00:45:52,830
it's that or anything else to kind of

854
00:45:57,620 --> 00:45:55,440
play enact it and again have it be a

855
00:45:59,780 --> 00:45:57,630
pressure-release and and let off a

856
00:46:02,380 --> 00:45:59,790
little steam and kind of laugh about it

857
00:46:04,990 --> 00:46:02,390
and poke fun of it it really drops the

858
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:05,000
you know again it's a it's a it's

859
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:07,170
psychologically healthy it lets off

860
00:46:15,110 --> 00:46:11,370
steam and allows us to you know Express

861
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:15,120
it's important to express our perhaps

862
00:46:23,390 --> 00:46:18,810
dark and destructive urges you know as

863
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:23,400
art or as play or as theatre so that

864
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:25,410
they're released and they don't build up

865
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:26,850
and turn into something that is actually

866
00:46:34,100 --> 00:46:31,530
destructive to society now what is when

867
00:46:38,270 --> 00:46:34,110
we look at the way the society now

868
00:46:42,650 --> 00:46:38,280
thinks about witches there is kind of

869
00:46:45,710 --> 00:46:42,660
like two or three different ways to take

870
00:46:47,300 --> 00:46:45,720
a look one we have the Wizard of Oz

871
00:46:48,980 --> 00:46:47,310
right we have the good in the bad

872
00:46:52,460 --> 00:46:48,990
witches and you'll you know we can

873
00:46:54,260 --> 00:46:52,470
always think of the the bad witch in The

874
00:46:57,260 --> 00:46:54,270
Wizard of Oz you know writing the broom

875
00:47:00,290 --> 00:46:57,270
the crazy hats a crooked nose maybe even

876
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:00,300
a shade of green in her skin there's

877
00:47:05,450 --> 00:47:02,330
that part then there's the good witch

878
00:47:07,910 --> 00:47:05,460
though there's the witches of Salem and

879
00:47:10,550 --> 00:47:07,920
then you have witches today that'll say

880
00:47:14,060 --> 00:47:10,560
oh you know went up that the witches are

881
00:47:17,690 --> 00:47:14,070
good you know they're there why has it

882
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:17,700
twisted up in society now that that that

883
00:47:21,830 --> 00:47:19,770
witches are bad and they do bad things

884
00:47:24,260 --> 00:47:21,840
but yeah witches will defend themselves

885
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:24,270
as they know for we do nothing but good

886
00:47:29,460 --> 00:47:27,930
things where did all of this start well

887
00:47:31,590 --> 00:47:29,470
I think the real core

888
00:47:33,540 --> 00:47:31,600
thinking about which is is that it's a

889
00:47:38,550 --> 00:47:33,550
woman's it's a woman's symbol right it's

890
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:38,560
a symbol of female wisdom perhaps and

891
00:47:46,590 --> 00:47:43,890
also you know a female power perhaps and

892
00:47:48,690 --> 00:47:46,600
it was always of course if you go back

893
00:47:50,970 --> 00:47:48,700
to the Salem witch trials and the witch

894
00:47:53,780 --> 00:47:50,980
burnings in the Middle Ages there was

895
00:47:56,010 --> 00:47:53,790
this mass panic that women perhaps had

896
00:47:58,920 --> 00:47:56,020
magical powers that they were using for

897
00:48:02,070 --> 00:47:58,930
for ill and I think that's been

898
00:48:04,020 --> 00:48:02,080
reclaimed as a symbol by women currently

899
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:04,030
particularly young women who see that as

900
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:06,610
a very empowering thing to be I think

901
00:48:11,820 --> 00:48:08,890
women now particularly they like that

902
00:48:14,100 --> 00:48:11,830
idea they like the idea of being a

903
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:14,110
little a little magical having a little

904
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:16,090
bit of a little bit of extra power of

905
00:48:19,620 --> 00:48:17,890
course everyone likes that idea everyone

906
00:48:21,810 --> 00:48:19,630
wants to be a little bit magical and

907
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:21,820
have a little bit of extra power or

908
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:25,530
insight or whatever it happens to be so

909
00:48:30,540 --> 00:48:27,850
but the witch is a symbol that's been

910
00:48:32,580 --> 00:48:30,550
with us since the beginning of recorded

911
00:48:35,310 --> 00:48:32,590
history I mean we can talk about the

912
00:48:38,100 --> 00:48:35,320
Witch of Endor in the Bible or we can

913
00:48:40,170 --> 00:48:38,110
talk about you know there were accounts

914
00:48:42,300 --> 00:48:40,180
of witches in ancient Rome and and all

915
00:48:46,170 --> 00:48:42,310
throughout and in India and all

916
00:48:49,110 --> 00:48:46,180
throughout the entire world and it's

917
00:48:52,470 --> 00:48:49,120
very much I think always been connected

918
00:48:55,770 --> 00:48:52,480
with the idea of there's just something

919
00:48:58,770 --> 00:48:55,780
about women it is indescribable and

920
00:49:01,320 --> 00:48:58,780
bewitching and that is it can sometimes

921
00:49:03,510 --> 00:49:01,330
be quite frightening for men because you

922
00:49:09,030 --> 00:49:03,520
know as men of course you know no matter

923
00:49:12,780 --> 00:49:09,040
how perhaps intelligent or you know a

924
00:49:15,720 --> 00:49:12,790
rational we are or powerful or wealthy

925
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:15,730
we're always at some level going to be

926
00:49:21,690 --> 00:49:19,090
under the power of of women perhaps you

927
00:49:25,860 --> 00:49:21,700
know perhaps you know a heterosexual men

928
00:49:27,660 --> 00:49:25,870
and I think and and really that's kind

929
00:49:30,450 --> 00:49:27,670
of all throughout history we have the

930
00:49:33,510 --> 00:49:30,460
stories of you know whole empires have

931
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:33,520
fallen to one woman's whims you know if

932
00:49:37,650 --> 00:49:36,130
you look at Helen of Troy or there's so

933
00:49:39,570 --> 00:49:37,660
many stories like that from history or

934
00:49:41,460 --> 00:49:39,580
from modern history where you know a

935
00:49:43,180 --> 00:49:41,470
woman has been that you know a very

936
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:43,190
powerful man's downfall so

937
00:49:49,240 --> 00:49:45,290
there's just something about women that

938
00:49:52,630 --> 00:49:49,250
is seems to transcend anything that men

939
00:49:55,870 --> 00:49:52,640
can perhaps fathom or you know capacity

940
00:50:00,700 --> 00:49:55,880
and that's a very magical position and

941
00:50:01,930 --> 00:50:00,710
something that I think has been quite I

942
00:50:04,900 --> 00:50:01,940
think that people throughout history

943
00:50:06,730 --> 00:50:04,910
have been fascinated with and of course

944
00:50:10,930 --> 00:50:06,740
terrifies some people and fascinates

945
00:50:13,090 --> 00:50:10,940
fascinates others so yeah I mean there's

946
00:50:14,830 --> 00:50:13,100
so much there with the the symbol and

947
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:14,840
the reality of the witch there's

948
00:50:21,010 --> 00:50:17,690
something else very interesting here and

949
00:50:23,010 --> 00:50:21,020
and I need to say this in defense of all

950
00:50:26,610 --> 00:50:23,020
the men in in the world

951
00:50:28,950 --> 00:50:26,620
warlocks can't hold a candle to a witch

952
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:28,960
nobody even cares

953
00:50:34,990 --> 00:50:33,290
it's really funny right if you go see

954
00:50:37,570 --> 00:50:35,000
you laugh because you know exactly what

955
00:50:39,940 --> 00:50:37,580
I'm saying here if you if you think

956
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:39,950
about some of the pop culture ways of

957
00:50:45,940 --> 00:50:41,930
looking at this whether it's like the TV

958
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:45,950
show bewitched right you had you had all

959
00:50:50,950 --> 00:50:49,010
of the witches really the warlocks and

960
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:50,960
and and that they didn't have the power

961
00:50:58,570 --> 00:50:53,330
they weren't you know the real the real

962
00:51:00,220 --> 00:50:58,580
power lied within the witches and and I

963
00:51:03,550 --> 00:51:00,230
don't I don't get that

964
00:51:04,450 --> 00:51:03,560
throughout history we witches are talked

965
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:04,460
about all the time

966
00:51:09,610 --> 00:51:07,970
warlocks ignored and I'm here to stand

967
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:09,620
up I'm here to stand up today for all

968
00:51:12,460 --> 00:51:12,050
the warlocks out there but why Thank You

969
00:51:16,690 --> 00:51:12,470
Jimmy

970
00:51:19,180 --> 00:51:16,700
yes why why why is that well at

971
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:19,190
attention I have a very funny story to

972
00:51:22,930 --> 00:51:20,690
relate about that which was a couple

973
00:51:25,990 --> 00:51:22,940
years ago I was in New York on a panel

974
00:51:27,610 --> 00:51:26,000
with the head of the of the I believe

975
00:51:29,380 --> 00:51:27,620
the International psychoanalytic

976
00:51:31,720 --> 00:51:29,390
Association and I was talking about

977
00:51:34,380 --> 00:51:31,730
magic and he was quite terrified by this

978
00:51:36,850 --> 00:51:34,390
I you know like very straight-laced

979
00:51:38,250 --> 00:51:36,860
psychoanalyst do not want to talk about

980
00:51:40,750 --> 00:51:38,260
these things and he started immediately

981
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:40,760
making fun of magic and saying like oh

982
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:43,130
it's just you know this obsession where

983
00:51:46,750 --> 00:51:45,050
you just you know mysticism is just this

984
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:46,760
obsession where you just want to go back

985
00:51:51,940 --> 00:51:49,130
to the womb and worship the goddess and

986
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:51,950
then he said and you know isn't it crazy

987
00:51:54,390 --> 00:51:53,810
that there's just which is everywhere

988
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:54,400
you

989
00:51:58,170 --> 00:51:56,770
every woman wants to be a witch but

990
00:51:59,910 --> 00:51:58,180
there's you know there's like no

991
00:52:02,460 --> 00:51:59,920
warlocks you can count them on one hand

992
00:52:08,549 --> 00:52:02,470
and I said can you imagine how good my

993
00:52:10,529 --> 00:52:08,559
life must be what was his response not

994
00:52:12,210 --> 00:52:10,539
no response I had not sure he knew what

995
00:52:16,049 --> 00:52:12,220
to make of that but he was not a fan of

996
00:52:18,240 --> 00:52:16,059
me but I think that the the the real the

997
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:18,250
reality of that I mean this is something

998
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:20,170
that has been talked about in mythology

999
00:52:27,299 --> 00:52:23,410
and and sacred texts and religions all

1000
00:52:29,029 --> 00:52:27,309
throughout human history where how do I

1001
00:52:32,519 --> 00:52:29,039
put it

1002
00:52:35,059 --> 00:52:32,529
men are very much about building and

1003
00:52:38,789 --> 00:52:35,069
constructing and trying to understand

1004
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:38,799
what is where women particularly from

1005
00:52:43,950 --> 00:52:40,690
the mystic end of thinking are able to

1006
00:52:45,839 --> 00:52:43,960
just embody what is women are much more

1007
00:52:47,549 --> 00:52:45,849
in touch with their you know I'm porcine

1008
00:52:50,220 --> 00:52:47,559
speaking in generalities and I don't

1009
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:50,230
mean to overly stereotype but women I

1010
00:52:55,519 --> 00:52:52,450
think in general are much more in touch

1011
00:53:00,390 --> 00:52:55,529
with their intuition and with the

1012
00:53:02,730 --> 00:53:00,400
natural flow state of reality and men of

1013
00:53:04,470 --> 00:53:02,740
course are always questing for that they

1014
00:53:08,309 --> 00:53:04,480
want to understand it they want to

1015
00:53:11,549 --> 00:53:08,319
perhaps control it or possess it or in

1016
00:53:14,339 --> 00:53:11,559
some way you know match themselves to it

1017
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:14,349
but women just are they they have a way

1018
00:53:19,079 --> 00:53:16,690
of embodying it you know and in India

1019
00:53:22,319 --> 00:53:19,089
the classic phrase is Shiva cannot

1020
00:53:25,470 --> 00:53:22,329
manifest without his Shakti so you know

1021
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:25,480
there's this understanding that I you

1022
00:53:28,829 --> 00:53:26,890
know behind every man is it's not just

1023
00:53:30,779 --> 00:53:28,839
behind every man is a good woman because

1024
00:53:33,809 --> 00:53:30,789
that implies some type of hierarchy it's

1025
00:53:36,690 --> 00:53:33,819
more that you know men cannot men really

1026
00:53:40,890 --> 00:53:36,700
are nothing until they are you know

1027
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:40,900
within a productive partnership with you

1028
00:53:44,970 --> 00:53:43,210
know if the feminine force and of course

1029
00:53:47,039 --> 00:53:44,980
this is again we're getting into kind of

1030
00:53:48,690 --> 00:53:47,049
gender essentialism it can is not

1031
00:53:50,670 --> 00:53:48,700
necessarily heterosexual I mean these

1032
00:53:52,799 --> 00:53:50,680
things can management both feminine and

1033
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:52,809
Matt and masculine qualities can

1034
00:53:58,500 --> 00:53:54,490
manifest in either gender

1035
00:54:03,290 --> 00:53:58,510
so mm hmm hmm yeah but but throughout

1036
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:03,300
history it's very easy to recognize

1037
00:54:09,620 --> 00:54:06,690
who was always there the sorceress right

1038
00:54:12,170 --> 00:54:09,630
the witch that you know that that way it

1039
00:54:15,010 --> 00:54:12,180
doesn't matter what culture it was

1040
00:54:18,170 --> 00:54:15,020
always the same thing and when it came

1041
00:54:21,470 --> 00:54:18,180
what do we what do we men have what

1042
00:54:23,390 --> 00:54:21,480
Merlin right there's that there's that

1043
00:54:26,420 --> 00:54:23,400
much out there representing us who was

1044
00:54:29,180 --> 00:54:26,430
the guy that was the head of the Satanic

1045
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:29,190
church up in San Francisco what was his

1046
00:54:32,810 --> 00:54:31,410
name oh and Anton LaVey he doesn't count

1047
00:54:35,690 --> 00:54:32,820
he didn't even really believe in

1048
00:54:38,750 --> 00:54:35,700
anything supernatural right but Anton

1049
00:54:44,210 --> 00:54:38,760
LaVey wouldn't was never taken serious

1050
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:44,220
right just never right and that was like

1051
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:46,890
the best us men could do well there's

1052
00:54:50,750 --> 00:54:49,170
tons of male magicians of warlocks

1053
00:54:53,900 --> 00:54:50,760
throughout history I mean Apollonius of

1054
00:54:55,910 --> 00:54:53,910
Tyana Simon Magus John Dee Giordano

1055
00:55:00,859 --> 00:54:55,920
Bruno Aleister Crowley Jack Parsons

1056
00:55:04,940 --> 00:55:00,869
right but they tend to be yeah there's

1057
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:04,950
fewer of them and a it's a different

1058
00:55:08,870 --> 00:55:06,450
attitude it's a different perspective

1059
00:55:11,270 --> 00:55:08,880
than the female perspective and I think

1060
00:55:12,530 --> 00:55:11,280
that even within the Western magical

1061
00:55:15,230 --> 00:55:12,540
tradition there's very much an

1062
00:55:17,900 --> 00:55:15,240
understanding of the essential feminine

1063
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:17,910
quality of reality and the reality

1064
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:22,890
itself is feminine and in a certain way

1065
00:55:27,980 --> 00:55:24,930
you know which is Glyph perhaps by the

1066
00:55:31,010 --> 00:55:27,990
the goddess Kali in India or the goddess

1067
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:31,020
Babylon and in Western magic and many

1068
00:55:36,620 --> 00:55:33,690
many other symbols throughout throughout

1069
00:55:39,950 --> 00:55:36,630
world throughout world sacred cultures

1070
00:55:40,790 --> 00:55:39,960
yeah and and it's it's it's it's okay

1071
00:55:44,150 --> 00:55:40,800
with me

1072
00:55:46,910 --> 00:55:44,160
when when we think about witches and and

1073
00:55:50,089 --> 00:55:46,920
different sources and you know look at

1074
00:55:54,140 --> 00:55:50,099
look at Greece and Rome and Egypt and

1075
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:54,150
and and certainly the United Kingdom and

1076
00:55:58,579 --> 00:55:56,130
and Northern Europe and here in the

1077
00:56:00,530 --> 00:55:58,589
United States and Salem and so forth at

1078
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:00,540
that you know it's all over the place

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but the strong the strong warlock figure

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or that type of magical situation with

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the men it's it's we're not we have been

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represented and John Dee I'm seven

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five-year John Dee one of the most

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remarkable men throughout history and

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you know and your book is amazing and I

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had something that was I had read I

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wanted to try to keep this straight in

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00:56:32,900 --> 00:56:31,260
my head over the weekend that I didn't

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00:56:36,290 --> 00:56:32,910
talk to you before about John D and

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00:56:39,170 --> 00:56:36,300
that's the Voynich manuscript and yes

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00:56:40,790 --> 00:56:39,180
yes and and and you and I didn't discuss

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00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:40,800
that and over the weekend I was doing

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00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:43,890
some research and and that came up and I

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00:56:49,220 --> 00:56:46,530
was like how did how did Jason and I not

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00:56:51,380 --> 00:56:49,230
discuss that when he was on the show but

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00:56:54,170 --> 00:56:51,390
you're right John D but the point is

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00:56:55,580 --> 00:56:54,180
even with John D you have to go and

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00:56:59,510 --> 00:56:55,590
search for that it's not like there's a

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00:57:02,060 --> 00:56:59,520
you know a John D TV series or comic

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book or pop culture thing that is

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00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:03,510
something that you have to go and dig

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for and be a historian or a fan of to go

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00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:09,720
and get that revealed right but charm

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does back on TV I know it is it is and

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00:57:18,470 --> 00:57:15,620
so is you know what else is back on

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00:57:22,490 --> 00:57:18,480
Sabrina the Teenage Witch yeah yeah yep

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00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:22,500
are you watching it not yet not yet are

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you going to I will have a slumber party

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00:57:30,740 --> 00:57:27,570
at some point where we all watch Sabrina

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00:57:33,530 --> 00:57:30,750
the Teenage Witch I'm gonna do the big

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00:57:40,580 --> 00:57:33,540
reveal right now I started watching it

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00:57:42,590 --> 00:57:40,590
last night I admit okay all right let's

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00:57:49,610 --> 00:57:42,600
go here let's see what's happening with

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00:57:51,770 --> 00:57:49,620
this I was as a father of two dollars I

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00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:51,780
was forced into watching Sabrina the

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00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:53,490
Teenage Witch when it was in its first

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00:57:58,400 --> 00:57:56,130
run so I got to go back and revisit it

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00:58:00,320 --> 00:57:58,410
let's take a break right here Jason our

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00:58:02,870 --> 00:58:00,330
guest tonight Jason Louv this is night

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one of our Halloween week here on fade

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to black we're gonna discuss everything

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when we come back we'll get into the

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history of Halloween of course I do I

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want to talk about goblins I do I want

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to talk about all of this stuff we're

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gonna do everything tonight he run fade

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to black follow me on twitter i t-shirts

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ready you can follow Jason at Jason Lou

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and we'll be right back after this short

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break stay with us

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[Applause]

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[Music]

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all right welcome back fade to black our

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guest tonight Jason Luth night one of

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01:03:10,380 --> 01:03:08,529
our Halloween week here on fade to black

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01:03:13,829 --> 01:03:10,390
tomorrow night Maureen wood is going to

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01:03:16,199 --> 01:03:13,839
be here she's gonna tell us her favorite

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ghost stories with the new book that you

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just co-authored and we have it here

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it's called more ghost chronicles and

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01:03:24,359 --> 01:03:22,689
Wednesday night shot the Loon which is

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01:03:27,479 --> 01:03:24,369
going to be here now check this out

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01:03:31,169 --> 01:03:27,489
Jason and there couldn't be a better

1230
01:03:34,049 --> 01:03:31,179
warm up to the show tonight before I got

1231
01:03:39,799 --> 01:03:34,059
over to the bunker one of our dogs was

1232
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:39,809
barking all day at our grill outside

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01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:42,130
couldn't stop he was staring at it

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01:03:47,339 --> 01:03:44,650
staring at it and so I went out there

1235
01:03:49,650 --> 01:03:47,349
Reed is standing behind me and I'm like

1236
01:03:52,620 --> 01:03:49,660
ma'am what is going on with this I open

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01:03:54,959 --> 01:03:52,630
up the doors to the grill just to see

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01:03:57,479 --> 01:03:54,969
you know maybe there's a dead rat in

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01:04:02,279 --> 01:03:57,489
there I don't know and and opened it up

1240
01:04:06,209 --> 01:04:02,289
and there was a black cat a kitten

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01:04:08,789 --> 01:04:06,219
inside of our grill and just looked at

1242
01:04:12,539 --> 01:04:08,799
me these bright gold eyes I scream

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01:04:16,199 --> 01:04:12,549
Rita screams the cat bolts out of the

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01:04:19,349 --> 01:04:16,209
grill runs up the wall out of the yard

1245
01:04:21,569 --> 01:04:19,359
but there you go to kick off the

1246
01:04:23,579 --> 01:04:21,579
Halloween week black cat stuck in our

1247
01:04:25,679 --> 01:04:23,589
grill freaking out our dogs scared us to

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01:04:26,390 --> 01:04:25,689
death and here we are tonight pretty

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01:04:28,620 --> 01:04:26,400
cool

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01:04:31,109 --> 01:04:28,630
there you go maybe it was just keeping

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your grill clear of my sight she was

1252
01:04:36,569 --> 01:04:34,029
doing you a favor it's bizarre bad I

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01:04:38,459 --> 01:04:36,579
wasn't expecting anything but our dog

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01:04:41,899 --> 01:04:38,469
was just driving his crazy it was Teddy

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01:04:46,169 --> 01:04:41,909
her dog and just driving his nuts and

1256
01:04:48,929 --> 01:04:46,179
couldn't figure I don't know how the it

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was a little too kitten a little cruiser

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guy about something and and then took

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off that's more adorable that's more

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adorable okay I know and now we so we

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bring up Sabrina and charmed and I'm

1262
01:05:08,489 --> 01:05:02,679
watching Twitter here I guess everybody

1263
01:05:11,509 --> 01:05:08,499
is watching charmed and Sabrina yeah I

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01:05:14,180 --> 01:05:11,519
don't feel so guilty in revealing the

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01:05:18,370 --> 01:05:14,190
Sabrina the Teenage Witch

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okay now let's talk about the history of

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01:05:24,830 --> 01:05:22,230
Halloween which if you go back to the

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01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:24,840
etymology and you look at the name

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01:05:32,150 --> 01:05:27,570
Halloween first off it's a it's it's a

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01:05:36,410 --> 01:05:32,160
it's a Christian holiday right well I'm

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01:05:38,690 --> 01:05:36,420
looking at my my vintage copy of the man

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01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:38,700
myth and magic encyclopedia right now

1273
01:05:43,100 --> 01:05:40,650
which I'm sure anyone many people

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01:05:45,470 --> 01:05:43,110
remember from the 1970s and it's

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01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:45,480
informed me that it was originally a

1276
01:05:51,020 --> 01:05:47,970
pagan holiday it was originally a fire

1277
01:05:52,910 --> 01:05:51,030
festival and it goes back to the British

1278
01:05:55,810 --> 01:05:52,920
Isles it's a it's a Celtic fire festival

1279
01:05:59,660 --> 01:05:55,820
and it was just like all the other

1280
01:06:03,520 --> 01:05:59,670
holidays in pagan Europe co-opted by the

1281
01:06:07,490 --> 01:06:03,530
church as they came in and you know

1282
01:06:09,710 --> 01:06:07,500
conquered the pagans and and co-opted

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01:06:12,170 --> 01:06:09,720
religions of course they'd still wanted

1284
01:06:15,410 --> 01:06:12,180
their holidays so in many cases they

1285
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:15,420
just renamed the pagan holidays with the

1286
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:17,850
names of Christian saints and and

1287
01:06:21,620 --> 01:06:20,010
Christianized them but and to all

1288
01:06:23,930 --> 01:06:21,630
intents and purposes they're still the

1289
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:23,940
same Christmas of course is another

1290
01:06:28,130 --> 01:06:26,010
example of that Christmas was originally

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01:06:30,290 --> 01:06:28,140
Yule which was a pagan holiday where you

1292
01:06:32,570 --> 01:06:30,300
know trees were decorated and gifts were

1293
01:06:35,900 --> 01:06:32,580
left under under a tree and a horse

1294
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:35,910
Santa Claus is a is a pagan symbol and

1295
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:38,370
many people have suggested a symbol of

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01:06:43,220 --> 01:06:40,530
the Omni to muscaria psychedelic

1297
01:06:46,010 --> 01:06:43,230
mushroom that grows underneath trees in

1298
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:46,020
northern Europe but that was the deal

1299
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:49,530
with Halloween it was a fire festival it

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01:06:54,380 --> 01:06:51,810
was a festival for communing with dead

1301
01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:54,390
for communing with ancestors of course

1302
01:06:58,820 --> 01:06:57,330
ancestral rituals are common in every

1303
01:07:00,740 --> 01:06:58,830
single religion

1304
01:07:03,950 --> 01:07:00,750
excuse me every single culture

1305
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:03,960
throughout the world prior to the coming

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01:07:09,140 --> 01:07:07,530
of Christianity although you could argue

1307
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:09,150
that Christianity has its own forms of

1308
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:14,250
ancestral contact or worship and that

1309
01:07:18,950 --> 01:07:16,650
was the deal and and so it was this was

1310
01:07:23,300 --> 01:07:18,960
around the 7th century it was turned

1311
01:07:25,810 --> 01:07:23,310
into a Christian holiday and all saints

1312
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:25,820
you know All Saint's Eve instead of

1313
01:07:30,590 --> 01:07:28,170
instead of the original

1314
01:07:33,140 --> 01:07:30,600
or All Souls Day you know followed by

1315
01:07:36,820 --> 01:07:33,150
All Souls Day and Roman Catholicism as

1316
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:36,830
opposed to the original the original

1317
01:07:41,540 --> 01:07:39,330
holiday but you can't you can't change

1318
01:07:43,820 --> 01:07:41,550
these things too much because even if

1319
01:07:45,890 --> 01:07:43,830
you look at Halloween just a little bit

1320
01:07:50,390 --> 01:07:45,900
close up there's not a whole lot of

1321
01:07:53,090 --> 01:07:50,400
Christianity there when you go and you

1322
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:53,100
look and like I said the etymology right

1323
01:08:01,640 --> 01:07:56,850
Hallows mean st. so it was all saints

1324
01:08:05,020 --> 01:08:01,650
Eve was the the true meaning of

1325
01:08:11,180 --> 01:08:05,030
Halloween I think a lot of people would

1326
01:08:13,970 --> 01:08:11,190
be surprised by that yes yeah yeah

1327
01:08:15,650 --> 01:08:13,980
certainly there was a at least at one

1328
01:08:17,930 --> 01:08:15,660
point there was a Christian connection

1329
01:08:20,930 --> 01:08:17,940
and it was Christianized but I think

1330
01:08:25,060 --> 01:08:20,940
it's probably only skin-deep know now

1331
01:08:28,340 --> 01:08:25,070
what okay so then the the

1332
01:08:29,990 --> 01:08:28,350
jack-o'-lanterns you know we'll talk

1333
01:08:31,790 --> 01:08:30,000
about the candy and the celebration of

1334
01:08:36,140 --> 01:08:31,800
the haunted houses here a little bit

1335
01:08:40,970 --> 01:08:36,150
what it's turned into today but the the

1336
01:08:44,450 --> 01:08:40,980
jack-o'-lanterns they did and I was

1337
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:44,460
watching or looking at some of the

1338
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:47,370
images back then where they would do

1339
01:08:51,380 --> 01:08:50,250
like different vegetables cut faces into

1340
01:08:53,870 --> 01:08:51,390
it and light them up from the inside

1341
01:08:55,850 --> 01:08:53,880
this goes back hundreds and hundreds and

1342
01:08:58,670 --> 01:08:55,860
hundreds of years where did this

1343
01:09:00,440 --> 01:08:58,680
tradition start with the

1344
01:09:03,890 --> 01:09:00,450
jack-o'-lanterns and and because they

1345
01:09:05,390 --> 01:09:03,900
are jack-o'-lanterns are scary right and

1346
01:09:07,010 --> 01:09:05,400
you're supposed to carve them to be a

1347
01:09:09,980 --> 01:09:07,020
scary face you put a candle on the

1348
01:09:11,540 --> 01:09:09,990
inside of it it's glowing and it you

1349
01:09:14,270 --> 01:09:11,550
know looks like fire and it's kind of

1350
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:14,280
frightening where did these traditions

1351
01:09:18,530 --> 01:09:15,890
start and why did they do it

1352
01:09:20,990 --> 01:09:18,540
well there's a couple threads to pull on

1353
01:09:23,270 --> 01:09:21,000
there one is of course that we can't

1354
01:09:27,290 --> 01:09:23,280
forget the time of Halloween it's also a

1355
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:27,300
harvest festival it's the you know it's

1356
01:09:30,890 --> 01:09:29,370
an autumnal festival and so it's the

1357
01:09:34,430 --> 01:09:30,900
time when people are harvesting crops

1358
01:09:36,260 --> 01:09:34,440
that have grown during the summer and so

1359
01:09:38,570 --> 01:09:36,270
of course there's lots of things like

1360
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:38,580
pumpkins and gourds and and all of that

1361
01:09:41,780 --> 01:09:39,210
or now for

1362
01:09:45,289 --> 01:09:41,790
groan and can be used the other one is

1363
01:09:48,829 --> 01:09:45,299
the idea that as it there's I think an

1364
01:09:51,260 --> 01:09:48,839
instinctual dread in humans of the dark

1365
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:51,270
and Halloween of course this time of the

1366
01:09:57,350 --> 01:09:54,570
year is also the point in the yearly

1367
01:10:00,410 --> 01:09:57,360
cycle where it starts to get dark it's

1368
01:10:02,930 --> 01:10:00,420
summer is definitely over it's it's dark

1369
01:10:06,709 --> 01:10:02,940
now it's cold there's that but you know

1370
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:06,719
that unmistakable autumn chill the wind

1371
01:10:13,130 --> 01:10:09,770
the smell of Halloween in and and that's

1372
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:13,140
the coming of winter and so there's an

1373
01:10:17,959 --> 01:10:15,690
instinct that winter is coming in and we

1374
01:10:21,890 --> 01:10:17,969
can't forget that winter was not a

1375
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:21,900
trivial thing prior to you know things

1376
01:10:25,490 --> 01:10:23,610
like electricity and electric heating

1377
01:10:27,500 --> 01:10:25,500
and things like that I mean people would

1378
01:10:29,540 --> 01:10:27,510
die during winter if they people did not

1379
01:10:32,570 --> 01:10:29,550
get proper you know there wasn't enough

1380
01:10:36,140 --> 01:10:32,580
firewood if enough food had not been

1381
01:10:38,180 --> 01:10:36,150
stored from the summer harvest if

1382
01:10:40,459 --> 01:10:38,190
perhaps crops were blighted if there was

1383
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:40,469
less food than expected winter could be

1384
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:43,290
a very very grueling and frightening

1385
01:10:47,090 --> 01:10:45,330
time and not every member of the tribe

1386
01:10:48,650 --> 01:10:47,100
might make it not every member of the

1387
01:10:50,660 --> 01:10:48,660
family might make it you know people

1388
01:10:53,420 --> 01:10:50,670
might die from lack of food or from cold

1389
01:10:55,070 --> 01:10:53,430
so so there's a real fear there so

1390
01:10:58,430 --> 01:10:55,080
there's that and I think that there was

1391
01:11:01,310 --> 01:10:58,440
also this sense that it was because of

1392
01:11:04,610 --> 01:11:01,320
the coming of the darkness it was a kind

1393
01:11:07,700 --> 01:11:04,620
of a an in-between neither here nor

1394
01:11:10,070 --> 01:11:07,710
there it's right on the cusp of of these

1395
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:10,080
two seasons and so because of that

1396
01:11:15,140 --> 01:11:12,690
there's this sense of you know these

1397
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:15,150
this this space this inner zone between

1398
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:19,530
two worlds and so the idea you see this

1399
01:11:24,860 --> 01:11:21,570
idea repeated throughout cultures all

1400
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:24,870
over the world of wearing frightening

1401
01:11:29,390 --> 01:11:27,690
masks or dressing up as demons or

1402
01:11:31,250 --> 01:11:29,400
monsters or creating things like

1403
01:11:35,180 --> 01:11:31,260
jack-o'-lanterns with frightening faces

1404
01:11:37,700 --> 01:11:35,190
or or you know creating some type you

1405
01:11:39,770 --> 01:11:37,710
know scarecrows creating very frightful

1406
01:11:41,959 --> 01:11:39,780
things but it's not to celebrate that

1407
01:11:44,750 --> 01:11:41,969
it's actually that's always to scare

1408
01:11:46,940 --> 01:11:44,760
away evil spirits it's to be more

1409
01:11:49,340 --> 01:11:46,950
frightening and more scary and to you

1410
01:11:51,470 --> 01:11:49,350
know to have great festivals with loud

1411
01:11:52,310 --> 01:11:51,480
noises and firecrackers and things like

1412
01:11:55,399 --> 01:11:52,320
that

1413
01:11:57,649 --> 01:11:55,409
to frighten away evil spirits and evil

1414
01:12:01,850 --> 01:11:57,659
spirits might manifest as you know

1415
01:12:04,250 --> 01:12:01,860
blighted crop or you know you know bad

1416
01:12:07,339 --> 01:12:04,260
luck be following the tribe or people

1417
01:12:09,879 --> 01:12:07,349
freezing and things like that so there

1418
01:12:14,450 --> 01:12:09,889
was a real sense that it wasn't just

1419
01:12:17,359 --> 01:12:14,460
play-acting there was this this real

1420
01:12:19,189 --> 01:12:17,369
meat of scare away evil or scare away

1421
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:19,199
bad luck and you see that repeated all

1422
01:12:23,359 --> 01:12:21,690
over the world James Fraser the very

1423
01:12:26,030 --> 01:12:23,369
famous anthropologist talks about this

1424
01:12:28,790 --> 01:12:26,040
in the golden bow and this is really at

1425
01:12:31,490 --> 01:12:28,800
the root of not just Halloween but tons

1426
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:31,500
of tons of festivals all over the world

1427
01:12:37,100 --> 01:12:33,210
you see it in Mardi Gras you see it in

1428
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:37,110
Chinese New Year it's it's you know and

1429
01:12:41,270 --> 01:12:39,090
I think that you know in it there's a

1430
01:12:43,399 --> 01:12:41,280
real psychological component to it also

1431
01:12:45,379 --> 01:12:43,409
when we're with other people and we're

1432
01:12:48,379 --> 01:12:45,389
kind of going crazy and we're being loud

1433
01:12:54,740 --> 01:12:48,389
we get to forget ourselves and it scares

1434
01:12:57,560 --> 01:12:54,750
away the you know the you might say you

1435
01:13:00,169 --> 01:12:57,570
know bad luck or or evil thoughts that

1436
01:13:02,030 --> 01:13:00,179
come from isolation or being separated

1437
01:13:04,729 --> 01:13:02,040
from other people you know when we're

1438
01:13:07,370 --> 01:13:04,739
just stuck by ourselves then the mind

1439
01:13:11,270 --> 01:13:07,380
can turn to you know not not very

1440
01:13:13,700 --> 01:13:11,280
healthy avenues whereas in the just from

1441
01:13:17,689 --> 01:13:13,710
social isolation whereas in that setting

1442
01:13:19,129 --> 01:13:17,699
of this loud raucous crazy group party

1443
01:13:21,589 --> 01:13:19,139
you're with the group and you're all

1444
01:13:23,209 --> 01:13:21,599
being loud and you're you're alive and

1445
01:13:25,879 --> 01:13:23,219
the sense of life in you is pushing back

1446
01:13:28,669 --> 01:13:25,889
the darkness for another day you know

1447
01:13:30,740 --> 01:13:28,679
and that's true of any party I think so

1448
01:13:34,939 --> 01:13:30,750
that's that's that's what it's all about

1449
01:13:37,550 --> 01:13:34,949
in my opinion how did you know witches

1450
01:13:40,819 --> 01:13:37,560
and warlocks and goblins and you know

1451
01:13:44,209 --> 01:13:40,829
and devils and demons start to get

1452
01:13:47,919 --> 01:13:44,219
associated with with Halloween where

1453
01:13:51,500 --> 01:13:47,929
it's it went from one aspect of of

1454
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:51,510
celebrating the dead or the way that the

1455
01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:53,610
Christianity looked at it and going back

1456
01:13:59,120 --> 01:13:57,090
to the Celtic traditions of you know the

1457
01:14:02,890 --> 01:13:59,130
end of a season and I understand all of

1458
01:14:05,930 --> 01:14:02,900
that and then it got twisted into this

1459
01:14:07,670 --> 01:14:05,940
this horror side of it that

1460
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:07,680
that they tried to paint this picture

1461
01:14:12,350 --> 01:14:09,570
when did that start and it's never

1462
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:12,360
really stopped has it right well we've

1463
01:14:16,490 --> 01:14:14,610
lived in kind of a confused culture you

1464
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:16,500
know we live in a well I don't

1465
01:14:19,370 --> 01:14:17,730
necessarily want to say confused but a

1466
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:19,380
culture where we have so many different

1467
01:14:23,290 --> 01:14:20,970
influences from so many different things

1468
01:14:25,820 --> 01:14:23,300
so of course with Hollywood we've got

1469
01:14:28,340 --> 01:14:25,830
you know I mean what's what's there what

1470
01:14:31,130 --> 01:14:28,350
shows up in in Halloween we've got the

1471
01:14:35,090 --> 01:14:31,140
old pagan stuff we've got demons from

1472
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:35,100
Christianity we've got Hollywood slasher

1473
01:14:38,690 --> 01:14:37,170
movies we've got but now people don't

1474
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:38,700
even dress up as just scary things it's

1475
01:14:42,440 --> 01:14:40,050
like superheroes it's just like

1476
01:14:44,210 --> 01:14:42,450
everything gets let out and this is kind

1477
01:14:46,670 --> 01:14:44,220
of what I was touching upon earlier

1478
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:46,680
where Halloween over time has become

1479
01:14:54,530 --> 01:14:50,370
less of a Harvest Festival or less of a

1480
01:14:56,300 --> 01:14:54,540
pagan thing and and more it's really in

1481
01:15:00,380 --> 01:14:56,310
this country that they become much more

1482
01:15:04,220 --> 01:15:00,390
of a holiday about the imagination in

1483
01:15:07,940 --> 01:15:04,230
general and celebrating the imagination

1484
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:07,950
and that's something that we you know we

1485
01:15:13,970 --> 01:15:11,610
don't always you know give profits

1486
01:15:16,100 --> 01:15:13,980
proper do the rest of the year although

1487
01:15:18,380 --> 01:15:16,110
we certainly love to watch watch it in

1488
01:15:20,150 --> 01:15:18,390
you know watch movies and now people do

1489
01:15:22,190 --> 01:15:20,160
cosplay all year round and things like

1490
01:15:24,650 --> 01:15:22,200
that so things have changed a little bit

1491
01:15:27,230 --> 01:15:24,660
but you know we just live it we live in

1492
01:15:29,270 --> 01:15:27,240
a mishmash culture where we've gotten so

1493
01:15:31,370 --> 01:15:29,280
much stuff thrown at us by Hollywood I

1494
01:15:33,500 --> 01:15:31,380
mean the whole idea of haunted houses

1495
01:15:36,440 --> 01:15:33,510
and ghosts and things like that I mean

1496
01:15:38,390 --> 01:15:36,450
that all comes from spiritualism and in

1497
01:15:39,860 --> 01:15:38,400
the the end of the 19th century the

1498
01:15:42,110 --> 01:15:39,870
beginning of the 20th century there was

1499
01:15:44,060 --> 01:15:42,120
all that obsession with with trying to

1500
01:15:45,950 --> 01:15:44,070
speak to the dead and what we see in

1501
01:15:47,570 --> 01:15:45,960
movies like Paranormal Activity or

1502
01:15:50,060 --> 01:15:47,580
hereditary and things like that that's

1503
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:50,070
very much the legacy of spiritualism

1504
01:15:54,290 --> 01:15:52,530
which was also a very American religious

1505
01:15:55,970 --> 01:15:54,300
phenomenon but it's all thrown in there

1506
01:15:58,100 --> 01:15:55,980
it's all a big mash I mean kind of like

1507
01:16:01,280 --> 01:15:58,110
America I mean America in general is

1508
01:16:03,770 --> 01:16:01,290
that you can't really trace it to one

1509
01:16:05,870 --> 01:16:03,780
culture or another it's got inherited

1510
01:16:07,550 --> 01:16:05,880
its cultural DNA from this you know

1511
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:07,560
people have come here from all over the

1512
01:16:12,860 --> 01:16:10,650
world to look for better lives and all

1513
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:12,870
of you know all of our traditions and

1514
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:14,250
you know I've kind of been thrown

1515
01:16:20,260 --> 01:16:17,210
together and made this new thing

1516
01:16:22,959 --> 01:16:20,270
it's America so that's that's kind of

1517
01:16:26,500 --> 01:16:22,969
how that happened I think are you okay

1518
01:16:29,590 --> 01:16:26,510
with you know when we're talking about

1519
01:16:31,350 --> 01:16:29,600
magic and and of course the horror side

1520
01:16:33,729 --> 01:16:31,360
of this and trying to scare you

1521
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:33,739
certainly and here in Southern

1522
01:16:39,310 --> 01:16:37,130
California you are very aware of all of

1523
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:39,320
the different theme parks that we have

1524
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:42,170
here I don't the count is high I don't

1525
01:16:48,190 --> 01:16:45,050
know what it is but their biggest 30

1526
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:48,200
days of the entire calendar year is

1527
01:16:56,590 --> 01:16:52,570
Halloween right every one of them has

1528
01:16:58,780 --> 01:16:56,600
the the biggest best Halloween scary

1529
01:17:02,110 --> 01:16:58,790
Knight thing that goes on for 30 days

1530
01:17:06,300 --> 01:17:02,120
goes on all month and it has nothing to

1531
01:17:09,790 --> 01:17:06,310
do with what Halloween used to be even

1532
01:17:13,450 --> 01:17:09,800
20 years ago 30 years ago it is evolved

1533
01:17:16,930 --> 01:17:13,460
into this this haunted house scary thing

1534
01:17:19,510 --> 01:17:16,940
about being frightened and it's not what

1535
01:17:23,590 --> 01:17:19,520
Halloween was about how did this all

1536
01:17:25,180 --> 01:17:23,600
start and are you okay with it I don't

1537
01:17:27,850 --> 01:17:25,190
think it matter either I don't think my

1538
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:27,860
opinion matters on it much but I think

1539
01:17:33,310 --> 01:17:30,770
that I don't know if it is that

1540
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:33,320
different I think that it's still the

1541
01:17:37,990 --> 01:17:36,650
same impulse it's still that same thing

1542
01:17:40,330 --> 01:17:38,000
because when people go to theme parks

1543
01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:40,340
it's still a group experience that's

1544
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:43,250
still the it's still a crazy celebration

1545
01:17:49,300 --> 01:17:46,130
and you know it's kind of like horror

1546
01:17:52,350 --> 01:17:49,310
movies right people don't watch horror

1547
01:17:55,660 --> 01:17:52,360
movies because they want to actually be

1548
01:17:57,790 --> 01:17:55,670
disturbed or hurt in some way they watch

1549
01:17:59,860 --> 01:17:57,800
horror movies because it's a controlled

1550
01:18:03,400 --> 01:17:59,870
experience I was actually thinking about

1551
01:18:04,870 --> 01:18:03,410
this last night and you know I was I was

1552
01:18:06,850 --> 01:18:04,880
what why was I thinking about this I was

1553
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:06,860
for some reason I ended up watching like

1554
01:18:13,630 --> 01:18:10,730
a YouTube a countdown of the top Friday

1555
01:18:16,209 --> 01:18:13,640
13th movies you know or Friday the 13th

1556
01:18:17,740 --> 01:18:16,219
movies ranked from worst to best and I

1557
01:18:20,350 --> 01:18:17,750
was thinking about this and I thought

1558
01:18:22,570 --> 01:18:20,360
you know life is kind of like a slasher

1559
01:18:24,430 --> 01:18:22,580
movie right it's like you know we're all

1560
01:18:26,729 --> 01:18:24,440
being stalked by death we're all gonna

1561
01:18:29,290 --> 01:18:26,739
die at some point and it's

1562
01:18:30,470 --> 01:18:29,300
uncontrollable and scary and we can't

1563
01:18:32,810 --> 01:18:30,480
get away from it

1564
01:18:36,290 --> 01:18:32,820
no matter what we do we can't bargain

1565
01:18:38,300 --> 01:18:36,300
with it we can't try as we might you

1566
01:18:40,340 --> 01:18:38,310
know we there's nothing we can do to

1567
01:18:43,430 --> 01:18:40,350
stop the fact that death is inevitable

1568
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:43,440
right and people have tried everything

1569
01:18:47,930 --> 01:18:45,810
and will continue to try every single

1570
01:18:51,710 --> 01:18:47,940
thing they can to get away from that

1571
01:18:53,510 --> 01:18:51,720
fight finality of life but so I think

1572
01:18:55,729 --> 01:18:53,520
that people watch horror movies because

1573
01:18:57,860 --> 01:18:55,739
it allows it's a cathartic it allows

1574
01:19:01,610 --> 01:18:57,870
them a little taste of it and they can

1575
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:01,620
feel that fear that is really the

1576
01:19:05,060 --> 01:19:03,810
existential fear of being alive but then

1577
01:19:07,130 --> 01:19:05,070
they can turn you know but then they

1578
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:07,140
there's a conclusion to the movie the

1579
01:19:12,830 --> 01:19:11,250
good guys win maybe and they can turn it

1580
01:19:14,510 --> 01:19:12,840
off and walk away and they've really

1581
01:19:17,210 --> 01:19:14,520
it's again it's a pressure release

1582
01:19:19,250 --> 01:19:17,220
they've released some of that some of

1583
01:19:21,650 --> 01:19:19,260
that fear and dread just of being alive

1584
01:19:24,410 --> 01:19:21,660
I think that you know haunted houses and

1585
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:24,420
scary houses are you know theme parks

1586
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:27,570
are very much the same but it also has

1587
01:19:31,010 --> 01:19:29,250
that element of a group pagan

1588
01:19:33,770 --> 01:19:31,020
celebration where everyone's they are

1589
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:33,780
having it's it's a kind of religious

1590
01:19:37,490 --> 01:19:35,610
thing not in the sense of being a

1591
01:19:40,790 --> 01:19:37,500
religion but in the sense that people

1592
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:40,800
want this kind of shared experience that

1593
01:19:46,490 --> 01:19:44,130
takes them out of themselves and gives

1594
01:19:50,150 --> 01:19:46,500
them a heightened emotion of fear State

1595
01:19:51,729 --> 01:19:50,160
and that's of course you know they're

1596
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:51,739
able to let go of

1597
01:19:55,970 --> 01:19:54,090
perhaps stress and fear that's built up

1598
01:19:57,620 --> 01:19:55,980
throughout the year that's that's the

1599
01:20:01,690 --> 01:19:57,630
quote we're gonna use from you from now

1600
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:01,700
on the fear and dread of being alive

1601
01:20:06,050 --> 01:20:03,930
well if you want to get right well there

1602
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:06,060
you go you want to get right down to the

1603
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:10,250
truth there you go it's like nausea as

1604
01:20:16,100 --> 01:20:13,890
jean-paul Sartre put it now what was I

1605
01:20:20,270 --> 01:20:16,110
was just getting ready to ask you this

1606
01:20:23,780 --> 01:20:20,280
and it popped up in Twitter what was

1607
01:20:26,260 --> 01:20:23,790
Samhain let's get back to the basics

1608
01:20:29,390 --> 01:20:26,270
here for a second what was Samhain I

1609
01:20:32,030 --> 01:20:29,400
believe Samhain is the same it's the

1610
01:20:33,740 --> 01:20:32,040
same holiday isn't it it's just I'm

1611
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:33,750
gonna have to look it up I believe it's

1612
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:35,970
the same holiday or is it or is it all

1613
01:20:40,700 --> 01:20:36,770
souls day

1614
01:20:43,510 --> 01:20:40,710
no it's oh okay so so Samhain is the

1615
01:20:45,730 --> 01:20:43,520
Gaelic festival of

1616
01:20:49,270 --> 01:20:45,740
Halloween and it was celebrated October

1617
01:20:51,550 --> 01:20:49,280
31st in November first so it is perhaps

1618
01:20:57,820 --> 01:20:51,560
the original Celtic name of what became

1619
01:21:00,280 --> 01:20:57,830
Halloween and how you mentioned this it

1620
01:21:03,900 --> 01:21:00,290
is it a part it's a part of our history

1621
01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:03,910
that a lot of a lot of us don't really

1622
01:21:12,310 --> 01:21:09,410
understand but the church needed to not

1623
01:21:17,590 --> 01:21:12,320
so much make peace but as it was gained

1624
01:21:20,860 --> 01:21:17,600
strength by by embracing the pagan

1625
01:21:23,980 --> 01:21:20,870
religions of what was going on in Great

1626
01:21:26,410 --> 01:21:23,990
Britain and the only way to do that was

1627
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:26,420
to look at a few of their holidays too

1628
01:21:31,870 --> 01:21:29,810
as well and bring it into the Christian

1629
01:21:34,030 --> 01:21:31,880
Church and the Catholic Church and

1630
01:21:37,300 --> 01:21:34,040
figure out a way to move forward like

1631
01:21:39,550 --> 01:21:37,310
Easter and Sunday and what days of the

1632
01:21:42,970 --> 01:21:39,560
week and what days were rest and what

1633
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:42,980
days were yeah all of these things were

1634
01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:45,890
joined together and that's what they did

1635
01:21:50,310 --> 01:21:47,690
with Halloween they did the very same

1636
01:21:54,190 --> 01:21:50,320
thing as they did like you mentioned

1637
01:21:57,210 --> 01:21:54,200
Christmas is another example that's

1638
01:21:59,920 --> 01:21:57,220
right I mean you have to remember in the

1639
01:22:03,190 --> 01:21:59,930
you know Christianity was an occupying

1640
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:03,200
force in Europe it wasn't just Great

1641
01:22:08,290 --> 01:22:05,170
Britain it was all Northern Europe and

1642
01:22:10,480 --> 01:22:08,300
the tribes that were there mm-hmm

1643
01:22:14,020 --> 01:22:10,490
whether they were the you know Gaelic

1644
01:22:15,940 --> 01:22:14,030
Celtic or or you know the Viking tribes

1645
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:15,950
things like this they they had their own

1646
01:22:21,940 --> 01:22:18,050
traditions and their own religions and

1647
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:21,950
their own gods going back thousands in

1648
01:22:28,330 --> 01:22:25,010
some cases years that were totally tied

1649
01:22:32,620 --> 01:22:28,340
into their sense of tribal identity that

1650
01:22:35,740 --> 01:22:32,630
were kind of an unbroken line from their

1651
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:35,750
ancestors that were created from their

1652
01:22:42,460 --> 01:22:39,890
own experience of life and we're totally

1653
01:22:44,110 --> 01:22:42,470
different from you know the the

1654
01:22:45,790 --> 01:22:44,120
Christian view of life for instance if

1655
01:22:49,450 --> 01:22:45,800
you look at northern paganism and you

1656
01:22:50,290 --> 01:22:49,460
look at their gods Thor and Odin and

1657
01:22:53,260 --> 01:22:50,300
Freya

1658
01:22:56,950 --> 01:22:53,270
none of those gods celebrate the idea of

1659
01:22:58,570 --> 01:22:56,960
meekness or being kind or

1660
01:23:01,180 --> 01:22:58,580
you know turning the other cheek now

1661
01:23:02,860 --> 01:23:01,190
they were all fearsome warriors men and

1662
01:23:04,390 --> 01:23:02,870
women it's like that show Vikings you

1663
01:23:06,340 --> 01:23:04,400
know it was like they were all fearsome

1664
01:23:09,990 --> 01:23:06,350
warriors you know of course a classic

1665
01:23:13,990 --> 01:23:10,000
phrasing and northern paganism that is

1666
01:23:18,670 --> 01:23:14,000
you know Jesus Jesus wants you to repent

1667
01:23:22,630 --> 01:23:18,680
Odin wants you to man the eff up so that

1668
01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:22,640
was very much what the what the what the

1669
01:23:29,229 --> 01:23:24,890
North's gods were like and so when

1670
01:23:31,270 --> 01:23:29,239
Christianity went through they decide to

1671
01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:31,280
conquer it but you know you can't really

1672
01:23:35,350 --> 01:23:33,770
as we know from studying occupation

1673
01:23:40,570 --> 01:23:35,360
forces and things like this in history

1674
01:23:42,910 --> 01:23:40,580
it's very very hard to just replace the

1675
01:23:45,370 --> 01:23:42,920
religion of an indigenous people it's

1676
01:23:47,380 --> 01:23:45,380
very hard and it can only be done by

1677
01:23:52,750 --> 01:23:47,390
violence and that's violence that is

1678
01:23:54,700 --> 01:23:52,760
costly that is bloody that is very you

1679
01:23:57,340 --> 01:23:54,710
know unpleasant for everyone concerned

1680
01:23:59,530 --> 01:23:57,350
and ultimately if it only builds

1681
01:24:02,920 --> 01:23:59,540
resentment and when you build resentment

1682
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:02,930
like that it breeds revolution and it

1683
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:05,930
breeds you know it causes more problems

1684
01:24:09,940 --> 01:24:08,210
for the occupying force down the line

1685
01:24:11,770 --> 01:24:09,950
because it's just you know people are

1686
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:11,780
going to you know train and guerrilla

1687
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:13,730
warfare and things like that so the

1688
01:24:18,580 --> 01:24:16,610
genius you know the genius in a way of

1689
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:18,590
Christianity and Europe is that they

1690
01:24:25,030 --> 01:24:21,170
co-opted and this is a strategy that

1691
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:25,040
people have have taken sense the Roman

1692
01:24:30,100 --> 01:24:27,050
Empire did similar things but

1693
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:30,110
Christianity basically said you keep

1694
01:24:34,420 --> 01:24:32,690
your holidays keep your festivals do

1695
01:24:35,860 --> 01:24:34,430
don't you don't have to change your way

1696
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:35,870
of life that much

1697
01:24:40,450 --> 01:24:37,489
you just have to submit to the church

1698
01:24:41,890 --> 01:24:40,460
you have to end and we will you can

1699
01:24:43,420 --> 01:24:41,900
still keep your holidays but we're going

1700
01:24:44,530 --> 01:24:43,430
to name them after saints now and

1701
01:24:46,450 --> 01:24:44,540
they're going to be dedicated to the

1702
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:46,460
church and so it's kind of a judo move

1703
01:24:53,410 --> 01:24:48,530
in a sense where instead of attacking

1704
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:53,420
the energy they co-opted into their

1705
01:24:58,810 --> 01:24:56,570
system and this was a very very devious

1706
01:25:02,320 --> 01:24:58,820
and ingenious method of control that was

1707
01:25:04,270 --> 01:25:02,330
used to control Europe and has been has

1708
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:04,280
been used to control Europe for so long

1709
01:25:09,860 --> 01:25:08,090
that people forgot that things had ever

1710
01:25:12,140 --> 01:25:09,870
been any other way

1711
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:12,150
you know and and all of those original

1712
01:25:19,820 --> 01:25:17,250
pagan religions and and ancestral forms

1713
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:19,830
and gods are lost people have tried to

1714
01:25:24,620 --> 01:25:22,410
reconstruct them but the academic

1715
01:25:26,990 --> 01:25:24,630
sources are very scant and anything any

1716
01:25:28,730 --> 01:25:27,000
type of new paganism that people have

1717
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:28,740
tried to bring back as their for

1718
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:30,210
instance doing trying to do very hard

1719
01:25:36,950 --> 01:25:33,570
hard in Iceland right now it has to be

1720
01:25:40,100 --> 01:25:36,960
almost recreated from scratch because

1721
01:25:42,470 --> 01:25:40,110
that way it was all just paved over and

1722
01:25:44,570 --> 01:25:42,480
and we have little survivals of it here

1723
01:25:49,190 --> 01:25:44,580
and there but you know Jimmy I think

1724
01:25:50,780 --> 01:25:49,200
that people don't change that much and I

1725
01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:50,790
think that it's kind of like what we're

1726
01:25:57,290 --> 01:25:52,770
talking about with Halloween being a

1727
01:26:00,170 --> 01:25:57,300
pressure-release that the the memory

1728
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:00,180
never goes away it's kind of like almost

1729
01:26:05,900 --> 01:26:02,970
at a cellular or a body level people

1730
01:26:08,150 --> 01:26:05,910
still and and of course the pagan

1731
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:08,160
rituals and all that were an expression

1732
01:26:12,440 --> 01:26:10,050
of something that people needed in human

1733
01:26:15,830 --> 01:26:12,450
nature anyways Christianity very much

1734
01:26:20,180 --> 01:26:15,840
celebrates the idea of people being meek

1735
01:26:22,340 --> 01:26:20,190
and docile and and overcoming their

1736
01:26:24,410 --> 01:26:22,350
animal nature as whereas paganism in

1737
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:24,420
many ways celebrates the animal nature

1738
01:26:29,810 --> 01:26:26,970
of human beings and is essentially just

1739
01:26:31,850 --> 01:26:29,820
allows them to be as they are and get

1740
01:26:33,740 --> 01:26:31,860
their crazies out in a productive way

1741
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:33,750
like some of the ways we've been talking

1742
01:26:40,660 --> 01:26:37,050
about Janine just tweeted out that you

1743
01:26:44,450 --> 01:26:40,670
and I are salting the ears of all Gaelic

1744
01:26:51,380 --> 01:26:44,460
Celts Samhain is pronounced a salt Wayne

1745
01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:51,390
oh no you don't want any apologies I see

1746
01:26:55,540 --> 01:26:53,730
that's you know that's the politically

1747
01:26:59,780 --> 01:26:55,550
correct world that we live in today

1748
01:27:02,480 --> 01:26:59,790
right example of that let's take a break

1749
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:02,490
we'll be right back tonight is night one

1750
01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:05,130
of our Halloween week of course jasonlew

1751
01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:07,650
is here we're discussing all of it which

1752
01:27:12,230 --> 01:27:10,290
is warlocks goblins the occult magic in

1753
01:27:16,450 --> 01:27:12,240
the history of Halloween we'll be right

1754
01:27:16,460 --> 01:27:26,280
[Music]

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[Applause]

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01:31:57,419 --> 01:31:54,820
oh man Twitter is Twitter you guys have

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tonight night one of our Halloween week

1838
01:32:07,620 --> 01:32:05,350
Jason Lube is our guest we're discussing

1839
01:32:10,290 --> 01:32:07,630
all of it I want to know about witches

1840
01:32:12,570 --> 01:32:10,300
and warlocks and magic in the occult in

1841
01:32:14,790 --> 01:32:12,580
the history of Halloween and and Jason

1842
01:32:18,020 --> 01:32:14,800
you mentioned earlier I want to go back

1843
01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:18,030
I need some clarification here you said

1844
01:32:24,419 --> 01:32:20,770
like what's going on in Iceland right

1845
01:32:28,140 --> 01:32:24,429
now what's going on in Iceland oh yes

1846
01:32:31,020 --> 01:32:28,150
there's actually there's a man named

1847
01:32:33,149 --> 01:32:31,030
Hilmar Orem he'll Merson and I I don't

1848
01:32:34,530 --> 01:32:33,159
you know I'm for anyone who's from

1849
01:32:37,800 --> 01:32:34,540
Iceland I might have got that one wrong

1850
01:32:41,970 --> 01:32:37,810
too but he's a very very famous musician

1851
01:32:45,060 --> 01:32:41,980
who's also the head of the Asaro Church

1852
01:32:48,740 --> 01:32:45,070
in Iceland oh so true is is northern

1853
01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:48,750
paganism and he has been working on

1854
01:32:53,899 --> 01:32:51,489
building the first pagan temple I

1855
01:32:57,360 --> 01:32:53,909
believe in Northern Europe in the last

1856
01:33:00,330 --> 01:32:57,370
thousand years and it's either been

1857
01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:00,340
completed or just about to be completed

1858
01:33:06,450 --> 01:33:03,250
and paganism you know people are

1859
01:33:08,459 --> 01:33:06,460
actively worshipping the Norse gods in

1860
01:33:10,709 --> 01:33:08,469
Iceland for the first time again and

1861
01:33:12,570 --> 01:33:10,719
perhaps you know openly people have

1862
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:12,580
always done it but openly in a real way

1863
01:33:18,030 --> 01:33:15,610
in the last thousand years and it's it's

1864
01:33:20,130 --> 01:33:18,040
popping up in the mainstream news a lot

1865
01:33:23,820 --> 01:33:20,140
lately it's a huge project that they're

1866
01:33:26,630 --> 01:33:23,830
up to some of my friends over there have

1867
01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:26,640
told me about there's a real urge a real

1868
01:33:32,580 --> 01:33:29,530
people really want to rediscover their

1869
01:33:34,229 --> 01:33:32,590
authentic spirituality and a sense of

1870
01:33:38,100 --> 01:33:34,239
connection and I think it's no mistake

1871
01:33:40,500 --> 01:33:38,110
because we live in such a you know

1872
01:33:42,510 --> 01:33:40,510
disconnected time we live in a time in

1873
01:33:44,250 --> 01:33:42,520
which we're all isolated from each other

1874
01:33:47,010 --> 01:33:44,260
even though we have social media which

1875
01:33:49,620 --> 01:33:47,020
somehow seems to isolate us more we

1876
01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:49,630
don't have a sense of connection to our

1877
01:33:54,360 --> 01:33:51,610
ancestors or our past

1878
01:33:56,070 --> 01:33:54,370
we're very unrooted you know that's a

1879
01:33:58,320 --> 01:33:56,080
process that's of course been going on

1880
01:34:00,120 --> 01:33:58,330
since industrialization when people were

1881
01:34:03,110 --> 01:34:00,130
torn away from their families to go work

1882
01:34:05,780 --> 01:34:03,120
in factories but now even more so

1883
01:34:07,910 --> 01:34:05,790
I mean people don't really have an

1884
01:34:10,490 --> 01:34:07,920
identity outside of what's offered to

1885
01:34:12,230 --> 01:34:10,500
them by you know whatever the latest

1886
01:34:14,720 --> 01:34:12,240
Star Wars movie is or something like

1887
01:34:17,180 --> 01:34:14,730
that is the closest they get to having

1888
01:34:20,030 --> 01:34:17,190
you know their identity is what brands

1889
01:34:22,730 --> 01:34:20,040
they like what TV shows they like things

1890
01:34:25,250 --> 01:34:22,740
like that so I don't think it's any

1891
01:34:27,230 --> 01:34:25,260
mistake that there's a real hunger and a

1892
01:34:30,710 --> 01:34:27,240
real need because that's part of human

1893
01:34:33,170 --> 01:34:30,720
nature we need to be connected to not

1894
01:34:35,090 --> 01:34:33,180
just our own spirituality but our own

1895
01:34:38,210 --> 01:34:35,100
past and our sense of where we've come

1896
01:34:41,470 --> 01:34:38,220
from otherwise we're unrooted and just

1897
01:34:45,740 --> 01:34:41,480
drifting in the the abyss of you know

1898
01:34:47,570 --> 01:34:45,750
hyper capitalist society what do we I

1899
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:47,580
want to stay on this for a second

1900
01:34:53,750 --> 01:34:50,010
because I've always been interested in

1901
01:34:56,330 --> 01:34:53,760
the pagan side of things but what do we

1902
01:34:59,390 --> 01:34:56,340
really know what do we really understand

1903
01:35:01,460 --> 01:34:59,400
are there texts and things that have

1904
01:35:04,760 --> 01:35:01,470
been handed down because when we look at

1905
01:35:08,390 --> 01:35:04,770
you know the origins of say stonehenge

1906
01:35:11,930 --> 01:35:08,400
and that that was built by the pagans

1907
01:35:14,300 --> 01:35:11,940
but we really don't know or do we are

1908
01:35:17,210 --> 01:35:14,310
there texts and things that have been

1909
01:35:20,090 --> 01:35:17,220
handed down that go back you know three

1910
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:20,100
four thousand years there are bits and

1911
01:35:25,370 --> 01:35:23,010
pieces but the reality is we really

1912
01:35:27,830 --> 01:35:25,380
don't know anything and since the

1913
01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:27,840
sixties since the neo-pagan movement

1914
01:35:34,250 --> 01:35:32,090
there has been this real drive to

1915
01:35:35,750 --> 01:35:34,260
resurrect these things and to call them

1916
01:35:39,010 --> 01:35:35,760
back and of course a lot of the people

1917
01:35:41,990 --> 01:35:39,020
who started neo-pagan groups in the 60s

1918
01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:42,000
did so and gave themselves an era of

1919
01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:43,770
legitimacy by saying that they were in

1920
01:35:49,130 --> 01:35:45,930
some type of unbroken tradition going

1921
01:35:51,320 --> 01:35:49,140
back hundreds of years that had been had

1922
01:35:53,150 --> 01:35:51,330
been you know they'd had just been

1923
01:35:54,680 --> 01:35:53,160
hidden during the burning times or

1924
01:35:56,150 --> 01:35:54,690
something like this but the reality is

1925
01:35:58,910 --> 01:35:56,160
you know all of these things were

1926
01:36:01,670 --> 01:35:58,920
created mostly out of you know Tolkien

1927
01:36:04,490 --> 01:36:01,680
books and things like that and there was

1928
01:36:07,850 --> 01:36:04,500
a lot of make-believe and best guesses

1929
01:36:09,890 --> 01:36:07,860
and I think that's changed recently you

1930
01:36:13,010 --> 01:36:09,900
know there's been a lot of emphasis on

1931
01:36:14,870 --> 01:36:13,020
academic rigor of which of which my book

1932
01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:14,880
is part you know in in the magical world

1933
01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:16,090
people really want to get

1934
01:36:20,250 --> 01:36:17,770
to the academic sources but even that

1935
01:36:23,490 --> 01:36:20,260
said we still don't know really anything

1936
01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:23,500
if you want to see an unbroken pagan

1937
01:36:28,650 --> 01:36:24,850
tradition you have to go to India

1938
01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:28,660
because Hinduism is essentially very

1939
01:36:35,790 --> 01:36:32,410
very similar in many ways to what

1940
01:36:39,120 --> 01:36:35,800
Northern European paganism was Hinduism

1941
01:36:42,690 --> 01:36:39,130
is much closer or I should say northern

1942
01:36:44,970 --> 01:36:42,700
paganism European paganism is much much

1943
01:36:47,490 --> 01:36:44,980
closer to Hinduism than anything from

1944
01:36:50,670 --> 01:36:47,500
Christianity that they're very very

1945
01:36:53,190 --> 01:36:50,680
similar and and India of course has had

1946
01:36:57,150 --> 01:36:53,200
unbroken religious continuity for

1947
01:37:00,270 --> 01:36:57,160
perhaps ten thousand years and it stands

1948
01:37:03,090 --> 01:37:00,280
as a real inspiration my friend a key

1949
01:37:05,580 --> 01:37:03,100
setter Berg wrote a book called journeys

1950
01:37:07,860 --> 01:37:05,590
and pagan India where he he's from

1951
01:37:10,500 --> 01:37:07,870
Finland and he went to India to

1952
01:37:12,180 --> 01:37:10,510
rediscover what living paganism is like

1953
01:37:13,770 --> 01:37:12,190
because it's all around you there it's

1954
01:37:16,050 --> 01:37:13,780
the whole country it's everyone is

1955
01:37:19,230 --> 01:37:16,060
participating in it but then he

1956
01:37:21,740 --> 01:37:19,240
ultimately was drawn back to Northern

1957
01:37:26,390 --> 01:37:21,750
Europe and realized that he needed to

1958
01:37:28,920 --> 01:37:26,400
rekindle his own sense of of his own

1959
01:37:31,650 --> 01:37:28,930
ancestral tradition but that's a tall

1960
01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:31,660
order because we just I mean it's very

1961
01:37:36,930 --> 01:37:34,530
fragmentary not much was left after

1962
01:37:39,420 --> 01:37:36,940
after you know the tide turned to

1963
01:37:44,670 --> 01:37:39,430
Christianity that's very interesting

1964
01:37:46,620 --> 01:37:44,680
because we know what okay let's make a

1965
01:37:52,010 --> 01:37:46,630
general statement let's just like piss

1966
01:37:56,340 --> 01:37:52,020
off everybody right now in that is every

1967
01:37:59,640 --> 01:37:56,350
Christian Catholic holiday celebration

1968
01:38:01,920 --> 01:37:59,650
borrowed right and and then if we if

1969
01:38:04,610 --> 01:38:01,930
what you're suggesting here is even the

1970
01:38:09,990 --> 01:38:04,620
pagan traditions are those borrowed from

1971
01:38:13,080 --> 01:38:10,000
from India hmm well one thing that has

1972
01:38:15,510 --> 01:38:13,090
always fascinated me is that and I feel

1973
01:38:17,550 --> 01:38:15,520
I can't back this up but I feel this to

1974
01:38:20,340 --> 01:38:17,560
be intuitively true as somebody who

1975
01:38:22,680 --> 01:38:20,350
spent a lot of time in India a lot of

1976
01:38:24,660 --> 01:38:22,690
time immersed in Hinduism basically you

1977
01:38:26,820 --> 01:38:24,670
know and and the pagan traditions of

1978
01:38:29,430 --> 01:38:26,830
India glow throughout most of my 20s

1979
01:38:31,890 --> 01:38:29,440
frankly and or both

1980
01:38:33,780 --> 01:38:31,900
Aaron here and has also spent a lot of

1981
01:38:35,490 --> 01:38:33,790
time obviously around magic and the

1982
01:38:38,729 --> 01:38:35,500
European traditions in the list which

1983
01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:38,739
traditions I think they were one thing I

1984
01:38:45,510 --> 01:38:42,850
think that it was one thing that you

1985
01:38:47,130 --> 01:38:45,520
kind of ate an India and indo-european

1986
01:38:49,860 --> 01:38:47,140
religion if you will that wasn't an

1987
01:38:52,590 --> 01:38:49,870
organized religion but was like a form

1988
01:38:56,040 --> 01:38:52,600
and a pattern of life that stretched

1989
01:38:58,370 --> 01:38:56,050
from India to Europe I've seen hints

1990
01:39:01,890 --> 01:38:58,380
online or I've seen people saying online

1991
01:39:03,930 --> 01:39:01,900
that it's believed that the Vatican that

1992
01:39:06,660 --> 01:39:03,940
there was what's called a Shiva Lingam

1993
01:39:08,939 --> 01:39:06,670
which is a statue that is a combined

1994
01:39:12,270 --> 01:39:08,949
male and females of male and female

1995
01:39:14,580 --> 01:39:12,280
genitals was the Vatican was built over

1996
01:39:17,580 --> 01:39:14,590
and in fact many of the of course many

1997
01:39:20,610 --> 01:39:17,590
of the of the Christian sites in Europe

1998
01:39:23,220 --> 01:39:20,620
including st. Paul's in London were

1999
01:39:25,350 --> 01:39:23,230
built over pagan temples but I think

2000
01:39:27,810 --> 01:39:25,360
that it was probably one big thing

2001
01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:27,820
stretching across that part of the world

2002
01:39:38,189 --> 01:39:32,050
are we do you remember the film

2003
01:39:41,910 --> 01:39:38,199
zeitgeist yes okay the opening 5 or 10

2004
01:39:47,580 --> 01:39:41,920
minutes of that film I watched over and

2005
01:39:49,920 --> 01:39:47,590
over and over again trying to absorb the

2006
01:39:54,450 --> 01:39:49,930
seriousness of what was being presented

2007
01:39:57,570 --> 01:39:54,460
there and and going back to all of the

2008
01:40:00,350 --> 01:39:57,580
you know the sunrise and sunset and set

2009
01:40:03,540 --> 01:40:00,360
and what this really meant going through

2010
01:40:08,970 --> 01:40:03,550
Christianity and Jesus and and how many

2011
01:40:12,150 --> 01:40:08,980
different deities or worshipped symbols

2012
01:40:14,220 --> 01:40:12,160
over the years all were born of a Virgin

2013
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:14,230
Mother right for examples it's like

2014
01:40:19,050 --> 01:40:16,570
everybody everybody was born on

2015
01:40:24,360 --> 01:40:19,060
Christmas Day and and what December 25th

2016
01:40:26,760 --> 01:40:24,370
was and and the changing of the the

2017
01:40:29,910 --> 01:40:26,770
sunset rising and going from east to

2018
01:40:32,370 --> 01:40:29,920
west all of that throughout and you go

2019
01:40:35,850 --> 01:40:32,380
and you investigate that and it seems to

2020
01:40:38,610 --> 01:40:35,860
be based on truth well then that kind of

2021
01:40:40,830 --> 01:40:38,620
breaks down everything which goes right

2022
01:40:45,210 --> 01:40:40,840
to what Halloween is to

2023
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:45,220
and is is is that something that we need

2024
01:40:50,700 --> 01:40:48,010
to take serious you know what I mean

2025
01:40:54,720 --> 01:40:50,710
we're all that it was that a pun yeah

2026
01:40:57,270 --> 01:40:54,730
the word serious for a reason yes played

2027
01:40:59,670 --> 01:40:57,280
well played but yeah you know what I

2028
01:41:02,100 --> 01:40:59,680
mean and and going to the three kings

2029
01:41:04,170 --> 01:41:02,110
and the three wise men and the stars in

2030
01:41:07,410 --> 01:41:04,180
the sky and and what all of this was

2031
01:41:10,080 --> 01:41:07,420
represented it didn't happen at the Year

2032
01:41:13,650 --> 01:41:10,090
Zero right this was something that was

2033
01:41:17,010 --> 01:41:13,660
was going on through all cultures and

2034
01:41:19,440 --> 01:41:17,020
religions throughout the world predating

2035
01:41:21,990 --> 01:41:19,450
Christianity by you know in some cases

2036
01:41:24,420 --> 01:41:22,000
thousands of years like you're saying

2037
01:41:28,050 --> 01:41:24,430
with with India going back ten thousand

2038
01:41:29,820 --> 01:41:28,060
years well I look at it like this all

2039
01:41:32,060 --> 01:41:29,830
when you really get down to it all

2040
01:41:34,110 --> 01:41:32,070
religions all stories all art are

2041
01:41:36,180 --> 01:41:34,120
attempts to make sense of the human

2042
01:41:38,340 --> 01:41:36,190
experience and the human experience is

2043
01:41:40,890 --> 01:41:38,350
not that different it is not you know

2044
01:41:43,730 --> 01:41:40,900
from culture to culture from person to

2045
01:41:46,110 --> 01:41:43,740
person or from millennia to millennia so

2046
01:41:48,510 --> 01:41:46,120
human beings really have kind of a

2047
01:41:51,270 --> 01:41:48,520
limited number of symbols available to

2048
01:41:53,010 --> 01:41:51,280
them what are the what are the symbols

2049
01:41:55,020 --> 01:41:53,020
the realities that were confronted with

2050
01:41:59,850 --> 01:41:55,030
on a day-to-day basis you know the Sun

2051
01:42:04,200 --> 01:41:59,860
the Moon the the male the female the

2052
01:42:06,720 --> 01:42:04,210
cycle of plants the animals in our lives

2053
01:42:09,300 --> 01:42:06,730
the life cycle of a human being from

2054
01:42:13,560 --> 01:42:09,310
baby to adolescent to adult to elderly

2055
01:42:15,570 --> 01:42:13,570
to to on on the deathbed you know the

2056
01:42:18,300 --> 01:42:15,580
this these are the symbols that we have

2057
01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:18,310
available to us and these are the forces

2058
01:42:23,460 --> 01:42:20,890
with which we must contend and the

2059
01:42:26,220 --> 01:42:23,470
forces that make up our lives and these

2060
01:42:27,690 --> 01:42:26,230
forces have been symbolized by cultures

2061
01:42:31,050 --> 01:42:27,700
all throughout the world in different

2062
01:42:34,890 --> 01:42:31,060
but similar ways either as occult

2063
01:42:37,260 --> 01:42:34,900
symbols or as gods you know gods of the

2064
01:42:38,850 --> 01:42:37,270
Sun or gods of the moon or gods of time

2065
01:42:42,840 --> 01:42:38,860
or gods of the harvest

2066
01:42:45,630 --> 01:42:42,850
you know the crops the the river this is

2067
01:42:49,440 --> 01:42:45,640
just the stuff of human life so when you

2068
01:42:54,029 --> 01:42:49,450
get down to the core fundamentals of

2069
01:42:57,270 --> 01:42:54,039
existence they're the same cross culture

2070
01:43:00,740 --> 01:42:57,280
and cross periods of time so it's not

2071
01:43:03,240 --> 01:43:00,750
any big conspiracy that there's so many

2072
01:43:06,029 --> 01:43:03,250
similarities in religion and so many

2073
01:43:08,040 --> 01:43:06,039
repeating motifs and themes the other

2074
01:43:09,959 --> 01:43:08,050
the other part of it is that you have to

2075
01:43:12,149 --> 01:43:09,969
remember again prior to Christianity

2076
01:43:15,299 --> 01:43:12,159
these things were fluid there was not a

2077
01:43:18,750 --> 01:43:15,309
sense of set dogmas particularly when

2078
01:43:21,270 --> 01:43:18,760
the Silk Road still existed there was

2079
01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:21,280
you know trade along the Silk Road and

2080
01:43:24,689 --> 01:43:22,690
different cultures came into contact

2081
01:43:26,729 --> 01:43:24,699
with each other and they shared God's

2082
01:43:29,009 --> 01:43:26,739
because they didn't have this idea yet

2083
01:43:30,810 --> 01:43:29,019
that there was one right way and

2084
01:43:34,200 --> 01:43:30,820
anything that did not follow that one

2085
01:43:38,220 --> 01:43:34,210
right way it was heresy that was a later

2086
01:43:40,379 --> 01:43:38,230
development in history and you know we

2087
01:43:42,390 --> 01:43:40,389
can see that tendency arising and in

2088
01:43:45,509 --> 01:43:42,400
Christianity and Islam and to some

2089
01:43:48,180 --> 01:43:45,519
extent in Buddhism also of you know

2090
01:43:51,000 --> 01:43:48,190
people trying to codify a you know one

2091
01:43:53,819 --> 01:43:51,010
way that it works but prior to that it

2092
01:43:55,950 --> 01:43:53,829
was kind of like you know it's just like

2093
01:43:58,140 --> 01:43:55,960
if you imagine you're at a big party or

2094
01:44:00,149 --> 01:43:58,150
like at Burning Man and you know you're

2095
01:44:01,979 --> 01:44:00,159
having your party with your gods but

2096
01:44:03,569 --> 01:44:01,989
somebody over next to you and their camp

2097
01:44:05,220 --> 01:44:03,579
is having their party and well that

2098
01:44:06,990 --> 01:44:05,230
looks like fun you want to go like hang

2099
01:44:08,970 --> 01:44:07,000
out with them and then you know they

2100
01:44:11,549 --> 01:44:08,980
maybe they like with the way you do it

2101
01:44:14,100 --> 01:44:11,559
and it all kinds kind of you know mixes

2102
01:44:16,379 --> 01:44:14,110
together and that's really what it was

2103
01:44:19,049 --> 01:44:16,389
like in the ancient world and along the

2104
01:44:21,810 --> 01:44:19,059
Silk Road so if you look at China and

2105
01:44:24,419 --> 01:44:21,820
India and Europe you'll see similarities

2106
01:44:27,060 --> 01:44:24,429
and even Egypt you'll see similarities

2107
01:44:28,830 --> 01:44:27,070
and blendings between all of them

2108
01:44:31,020 --> 01:44:28,840
there's evidence even that there were

2109
01:44:33,089 --> 01:44:31,030
Greek there was and you know Greek gods

2110
01:44:35,370 --> 01:44:33,099
ended up in Buddhism or vice-versa

2111
01:44:37,229 --> 01:44:35,380
Buddhism absolutely had an influence on

2112
01:44:39,660 --> 01:44:37,239
Christianity Christianity would not have

2113
01:44:41,700 --> 01:44:39,670
happened without the influence of

2114
01:44:43,620 --> 01:44:41,710
Buddhism which which began 500 years

2115
01:44:46,109 --> 01:44:43,630
before Christianity and so on and so

2116
01:44:48,689 --> 01:44:46,119
forth you know it's just like you know

2117
01:44:51,180 --> 01:44:48,699
way the internet where everyone's kind

2118
01:44:54,810 --> 01:44:51,190
of you know cross pollinating that's

2119
01:44:56,779 --> 01:44:54,820
just what humans do and with each of the

2120
01:45:01,680 --> 01:44:56,789
holidays and all of the religions

2121
01:45:05,250 --> 01:45:01,690
eventually it was all used in some form

2122
01:45:07,479 --> 01:45:05,260
or another to keep control to keep

2123
01:45:10,830 --> 01:45:07,489
society from spinning out of

2124
01:45:13,450 --> 01:45:10,840
to create different rules and laws

2125
01:45:15,640 --> 01:45:13,460
basically to to make sure that we didn't

2126
01:45:19,870 --> 01:45:15,650
spin out of control we continue to

2127
01:45:25,240 --> 01:45:19,880
reproduce we continue to harvest and and

2128
01:45:27,850 --> 01:45:25,250
and feed and and and and and and and

2129
01:45:30,100 --> 01:45:27,860
move on and develop so there's that

2130
01:45:32,709 --> 01:45:30,110
aspect of it and then certainly

2131
01:45:36,900 --> 01:45:32,719
Halloween had that those same things you

2132
01:45:40,510 --> 01:45:36,910
had mentioned this earlier a way to to

2133
01:45:44,470 --> 01:45:40,520
chase away evil spirits and it was a way

2134
01:45:48,130 --> 01:45:44,480
to control society and today Halloween

2135
01:45:51,090 --> 01:45:48,140
has not want to talk about magic where

2136
01:45:55,420 --> 01:45:51,100
we have witches and cauldrons and and

2137
01:45:58,810 --> 01:45:55,430
spiders and spells and potions and and

2138
01:46:01,060 --> 01:45:58,820
and and and and things where that has

2139
01:46:04,170 --> 01:46:01,070
rolled into Halloween where that had

2140
01:46:07,180 --> 01:46:04,180
nothing to do with it before did it

2141
01:46:09,190 --> 01:46:07,190
right well you know these things were

2142
01:46:10,930 --> 01:46:09,200
under Christianity and during the Middle

2143
01:46:13,720 --> 01:46:10,940
Ages these things were absolutely used

2144
01:46:15,550 --> 01:46:13,730
as a system of control and there wasn't

2145
01:46:17,709 --> 01:46:15,560
any distinction between church and state

2146
01:46:20,200 --> 01:46:17,719
by the way I'm not totally convinced

2147
01:46:22,090 --> 01:46:20,210
that's a completely negative thing I

2148
01:46:23,770 --> 01:46:22,100
think that society does need structure

2149
01:46:25,810 --> 01:46:23,780
and does need a certain level of control

2150
01:46:28,930 --> 01:46:25,820
because otherwise we just have anarchy

2151
01:46:32,020 --> 01:46:28,940
and violence and and people need

2152
01:46:35,170 --> 01:46:32,030
structure as much as the you know my

2153
01:46:37,870 --> 01:46:35,180
inner you know anarchist or libertarian

2154
01:46:39,580 --> 01:46:37,880
or whatever as much as my you know that

2155
01:46:42,250 --> 01:46:39,590
part of me would love to believe that

2156
01:46:44,200 --> 01:46:42,260
people are you know will just inherently

2157
01:46:45,670 --> 01:46:44,210
do the right thing if they don't have

2158
01:46:47,800 --> 01:46:45,680
social control on them I don't think

2159
01:46:49,300 --> 01:46:47,810
that that's actually true I think that

2160
01:46:51,220 --> 01:46:49,310
people do need a certain level of

2161
01:46:54,040 --> 01:46:51,230
structure it makes them happy it makes

2162
01:46:58,180 --> 01:46:54,050
them it gives them a sense of structure

2163
01:47:01,209 --> 01:46:58,190
to their lives that said in terms of

2164
01:47:03,910 --> 01:47:01,219
you're talking about you know the idea

2165
01:47:06,660 --> 01:47:03,920
of witches and and magic and things like

2166
01:47:10,500 --> 01:47:06,670
that I think that it's fascinating that

2167
01:47:14,440 --> 01:47:10,510
that also has become part of this

2168
01:47:16,600 --> 01:47:14,450
repressed world because magic itself is

2169
01:47:19,209 --> 01:47:16,610
also something that people are quite

2170
01:47:21,100 --> 01:47:19,219
often frightened of they're frightened

2171
01:47:24,129 --> 01:47:21,110
of it because it doesn't

2172
01:47:27,010 --> 01:47:24,139
rulz you know religion has rules and has

2173
01:47:28,030 --> 01:47:27,020
structure it has well-lit paths magic

2174
01:47:29,620 --> 01:47:28,040
doesn't have any of that

2175
01:47:34,240 --> 01:47:29,630
it has guidelines but you're basically

2176
01:47:36,970 --> 01:47:34,250
on your own and that again you know I

2177
01:47:40,600 --> 01:47:36,980
believe is more real it's more true

2178
01:47:42,550 --> 01:47:40,610
because magic gets closer to the truth

2179
01:47:45,149 --> 01:47:42,560
of the human experience that it's just

2180
01:47:47,979 --> 01:47:45,159
us naked shivering before the void and

2181
01:47:49,810 --> 01:47:47,989
and we need to make our own meaning and

2182
01:47:52,689 --> 01:47:49,820
structure out of that and ultimately all

2183
01:47:55,149 --> 01:47:52,699
these human created things like religion

2184
01:47:58,300 --> 01:47:55,159
and social structure are artificial

2185
01:48:01,689 --> 01:47:58,310
forms that are just there to keep social

2186
01:48:04,270 --> 01:48:01,699
cohesion be that as it may it's quite

2187
01:48:05,709 --> 01:48:04,280
frightening to immerse yourself totally

2188
01:48:08,020 --> 01:48:05,719
into the world of magic and the

2189
01:48:10,899 --> 01:48:08,030
unconscious sometimes in the sense that

2190
01:48:13,629 --> 01:48:10,909
it forces you to confront yourself and

2191
01:48:15,850 --> 01:48:13,639
see what's truly inside yourself this is

2192
01:48:17,590 --> 01:48:15,860
what you know most people frankly in the

2193
01:48:20,290 --> 01:48:17,600
modern world spend all of their time

2194
01:48:22,870 --> 01:48:20,300
trying to avoid people do everything

2195
01:48:24,640 --> 01:48:22,880
they can to not have to face themselves

2196
01:48:27,850 --> 01:48:24,650
them you know that what's the new

2197
01:48:30,220 --> 01:48:27,860
eyePHONE what's on Netflix let's go

2198
01:48:33,010 --> 01:48:30,230
that's what drinks can we drink what

2199
01:48:36,250 --> 01:48:33,020
drugs can we do what you know political

2200
01:48:38,919 --> 01:48:36,260
strife can we get wrapped up in almost

2201
01:48:41,830 --> 01:48:38,929
everything that people do is this great

2202
01:48:43,689 --> 01:48:41,840
you know drama this great you know sound

2203
01:48:47,620 --> 01:48:43,699
and fury signifying nothing as

2204
01:48:50,320 --> 01:48:47,630
Shakespeare put it just to in a way

2205
01:48:52,180 --> 01:48:50,330
serve a similar function to what I was

2206
01:48:54,729 --> 01:48:52,190
talking about of scaring away of the

2207
01:48:56,970 --> 01:48:54,739
darkness just making these loud noises -

2208
01:49:00,220 --> 01:48:56,980
can you know - the scare away the

2209
01:49:02,050 --> 01:49:00,230
existential dread of existence but magic

2210
01:49:04,660 --> 01:49:02,060
is different magic immerses you totally

2211
01:49:06,760 --> 01:49:04,670
in what's there and it's another one of

2212
01:49:10,209 --> 01:49:06,770
those forces that society fought in

2213
01:49:12,399 --> 01:49:10,219
feels they need to control much like sex

2214
01:49:16,540 --> 01:49:12,409
Society feels they need to control and

2215
01:49:20,050 --> 01:49:16,550
put strictures and bounds on and magic

2216
01:49:21,340 --> 01:49:20,060
is very much the same and so I don't

2217
01:49:23,169 --> 01:49:21,350
think it's any mistake that it's become

2218
01:49:25,120 --> 01:49:23,179
associated with this one day where it's

2219
01:49:27,040 --> 01:49:25,130
like okay on one day we will give you

2220
01:49:30,040 --> 01:49:27,050
one day and maybe it may be a little bit

2221
01:49:32,020 --> 01:49:30,050
of The Hangover of the next day to allow

2222
01:49:34,120 --> 01:49:32,030
these things to be real and allow these

2223
01:49:36,610 --> 01:49:34,130
allow these things out

2224
01:49:39,430 --> 01:49:36,620
into conscious awareness to allow

2225
01:49:42,070 --> 01:49:39,440
perhaps in psycho al psychoanalytical

2226
01:49:44,020 --> 01:49:42,080
terms to allow a breach of the

2227
01:49:46,300 --> 01:49:44,030
unconscious and to conscious awareness

2228
01:49:48,250 --> 01:49:46,310
but of course as we all know the

2229
01:49:50,740 --> 01:49:48,260
unconscious is where the truth is the

2230
01:49:53,860 --> 01:49:50,750
unconscious is where the reality of who

2231
01:49:55,660 --> 01:49:53,870
you actually are is and and that's why

2232
01:49:58,930 --> 01:49:55,670
people try to keep the door slammed on

2233
01:50:03,340 --> 01:49:58,940
it who I know totally totally and so who

2234
01:50:07,930 --> 01:50:03,350
is responsible for the the dumbing down

2235
01:50:09,550 --> 01:50:07,940
of the holiday and incorporating like I

2236
01:50:12,940 --> 01:50:09,560
said witches and broomsticks and

2237
01:50:16,570 --> 01:50:12,950
spiderwebs and bats and and cauldrons

2238
01:50:21,040 --> 01:50:16,580
with with crazy you know mist coming out

2239
01:50:23,680 --> 01:50:21,050
of it and who is responsible for either

2240
01:50:27,040 --> 01:50:23,690
ruining the holiday or just taking it

2241
01:50:28,990 --> 01:50:27,050
completely out of context well I don't

2242
01:50:30,850 --> 01:50:29,000
necessarily know if it's ruined or taken

2243
01:50:32,500 --> 01:50:30,860
out of context it's just expressed in a

2244
01:50:36,100 --> 01:50:32,510
different form for the world that we

2245
01:50:37,600 --> 01:50:36,110
live in you know it's it's it's it's you

2246
01:50:41,050 --> 01:50:37,610
know it matches the world that we live

2247
01:50:43,990 --> 01:50:41,060
in in a way and I think that it's the

2248
01:50:46,510 --> 01:50:44,000
same it's just the spirit of our time in

2249
01:50:49,210 --> 01:50:46,520
a way it's like every other holiday at

2250
01:50:51,280 --> 01:50:49,220
least in America has become is our

2251
01:50:56,350 --> 01:50:51,290
holidays are no longer Christian in a

2252
01:50:58,390 --> 01:50:56,360
way because Christianity has ceased to

2253
01:51:00,760 --> 01:50:58,400
become a very prevalent force in America

2254
01:51:02,830 --> 01:51:00,770
and Christianity in a way has been

2255
01:51:06,430 --> 01:51:02,840
replaced with the consumer cults where

2256
01:51:10,740 --> 01:51:06,440
people are now they idolize consumerism

2257
01:51:14,710 --> 01:51:10,750
and you know movies and TV and

2258
01:51:18,490 --> 01:51:14,720
Technology and you know the all-powerful

2259
01:51:22,060 --> 01:51:18,500
market and so all of these holidays in a

2260
01:51:23,860 --> 01:51:22,070
way are no longer truly pagan and

2261
01:51:25,870 --> 01:51:23,870
they're certainly not Christian anymore

2262
01:51:28,690 --> 01:51:25,880
because what people are really

2263
01:51:30,880 --> 01:51:28,700
worshipping in a way is money or just

2264
01:51:34,750 --> 01:51:30,890
simply commercial activity in the sense

2265
01:51:36,340 --> 01:51:34,760
that Christmas is an excuse to buy lots

2266
01:51:37,930 --> 01:51:36,350
of stuff for the people in your life and

2267
01:51:39,580 --> 01:51:37,940
for most companies is you know the

2268
01:51:42,100 --> 01:51:39,590
holiday season is the most important

2269
01:51:43,960 --> 01:51:42,110
season of the year for them Valentine's

2270
01:51:45,310 --> 01:51:43,970
Day of course also a very important

2271
01:51:47,800 --> 01:51:45,320
consumer holiday

2272
01:51:49,720 --> 01:51:47,810
because you know people buy things for

2273
01:51:52,120 --> 01:51:49,730
their sweethearts they get See's Candies

2274
01:51:53,649 --> 01:51:52,130
they get flowers you know and these

2275
01:51:57,490 --> 01:51:53,659
things in a way have now been

2276
01:51:59,560 --> 01:51:57,500
refashioned again co-opted what

2277
01:52:01,359 --> 01:51:59,570
christianity co-opted them from paganism

2278
01:52:04,149 --> 01:52:01,369
but now they've been co-opted from

2279
01:52:07,780 --> 01:52:04,159
Christianity in a sense by capitalism

2280
01:52:11,050 --> 01:52:07,790
and turned into a way to keep the mark

2281
01:52:12,819 --> 01:52:11,060
you know keep the flows of of Commerce

2282
01:52:14,830 --> 01:52:12,829
going they're kind of like they've kind

2283
01:52:18,189 --> 01:52:14,840
of become the station's in the cycle of

2284
01:52:20,680 --> 01:52:18,199
the market the rather than the natural

2285
01:52:22,629 --> 01:52:20,690
growth cycle and they're very important

2286
01:52:24,939 --> 01:52:22,639
to the US economy the holiday season is

2287
01:52:27,669 --> 01:52:24,949
critical holiday earnings are critical

2288
01:52:30,700 --> 01:52:27,679
for the stock market and in Halloween

2289
01:52:32,890 --> 01:52:30,710
and Valentine's Day and to you know to

2290
01:52:35,890 --> 01:52:32,900
some lesser extent mother's and Father's

2291
01:52:38,649 --> 01:52:35,900
Day and and other holidays are very

2292
01:52:41,500 --> 01:52:38,659
important markers in the in the consumer

2293
01:52:44,620 --> 01:52:41,510
cycle so they've these holidays have

2294
01:52:46,629 --> 01:52:44,630
again been repurposed to perhaps you

2295
01:52:48,790 --> 01:52:46,639
know our true God now Mammon which I

2296
01:52:50,770 --> 01:52:48,800
think both Christians and pagans alike

2297
01:52:52,479 --> 01:52:50,780
would be upset about if they thought

2298
01:52:57,069 --> 01:52:52,489
about it for more than five seconds yes

2299
01:52:59,410 --> 01:52:57,079
certainly and with with the criticism of

2300
01:53:01,959 --> 01:52:59,420
the Catholic Church today and

2301
01:53:05,290 --> 01:53:01,969
Christianity and the attendance of

2302
01:53:08,410 --> 01:53:05,300
churches as and and you know Saturday's

2303
01:53:13,390 --> 01:53:08,420
has dropped do you see a future for

2304
01:53:16,000 --> 01:53:13,400
paganism do you see a future where you

2305
01:53:19,859 --> 01:53:16,010
know we could have I mean could it

2306
01:53:21,790 --> 01:53:19,869
replace can it replace modern religions

2307
01:53:23,350 --> 01:53:21,800
well that's a big quiet that's a

2308
01:53:26,859 --> 01:53:23,360
fascinating question that's a that's a

2309
01:53:28,720 --> 01:53:26,869
big question too I think that I'll just

2310
01:53:30,629 --> 01:53:28,730
go off demographic numbers because I

2311
01:53:32,919 --> 01:53:30,639
this is something that I look at a lot

2312
01:53:35,080 --> 01:53:32,929
every single religious did not a

2313
01:53:38,109 --> 01:53:35,090
Christian denomination in America is

2314
01:53:39,850 --> 01:53:38,119
shrinking to the point where many of

2315
01:53:41,919 --> 01:53:39,860
these denominations are on the verge of

2316
01:53:44,109 --> 01:53:41,929
going completely extinct Presbyterianism

2317
01:53:45,359 --> 01:53:44,119
as an example Presbyterianism may not

2318
01:53:48,160 --> 01:53:45,369
exist in ten years

2319
01:53:51,370 --> 01:53:48,170
however Roman Catholicism is still

2320
01:53:53,500 --> 01:53:51,380
growing very rapidly the for various

2321
01:53:55,479 --> 01:53:53,510
demographic reasons and also because

2322
01:53:58,110 --> 01:53:55,489
they've expanded into Latin America and

2323
01:54:00,180 --> 01:53:58,120
Africa in Amer

2324
01:54:01,860 --> 01:54:00,190
however and this is been fascinating

2325
01:54:05,370 --> 01:54:01,870
paganism is the fastest-growing

2326
01:54:06,600 --> 01:54:05,380
religious demographic and particularly

2327
01:54:09,270 --> 01:54:06,610
among younger people I don't think

2328
01:54:10,380 --> 01:54:09,280
that's a big shock because you know

2329
01:54:12,210 --> 01:54:10,390
particularly younger people have all

2330
01:54:15,060 --> 01:54:12,220
been raised on Harry Potter and charmed

2331
01:54:17,070 --> 01:54:15,070
and Sabrina right right I wouldn't

2332
01:54:18,960 --> 01:54:17,080
necessarily say that it would be a

2333
01:54:20,970 --> 01:54:18,970
replacement and I don't even know if

2334
01:54:23,130 --> 01:54:20,980
that would be a good thing but it's

2335
01:54:25,920 --> 01:54:23,140
certainly in our current world it's Oh

2336
01:54:29,580 --> 01:54:25,930
being allowed to regrow where it was

2337
01:54:33,230 --> 01:54:29,590
once cut off almost at the roots it's

2338
01:54:36,150 --> 01:54:33,240
now regrowing and and and I think that

2339
01:54:38,250 --> 01:54:36,160
it really offers young people a sense of

2340
01:54:42,210 --> 01:54:38,260
empowerment which is not something that

2341
01:54:44,520 --> 01:54:42,220
they get from certainly not the media

2342
01:54:47,670 --> 01:54:44,530
probably not from parents probably not

2343
01:54:50,280 --> 01:54:47,680
from the school system our young people

2344
01:54:55,770 --> 01:54:50,290
feel very powerless and adrift and

2345
01:54:58,290 --> 01:54:55,780
hopeless and paganism gives them a sense

2346
01:55:01,560 --> 01:54:58,300
of personal empowerment in a way that

2347
01:55:04,290 --> 01:55:01,570
very few things can and for that reason

2348
01:55:06,290 --> 01:55:04,300
I think it's gonna keep growing and keep

2349
01:55:09,360 --> 01:55:06,300
getting bigger and bigger and I hope

2350
01:55:11,100 --> 01:55:09,370
becoming more mature and more

2351
01:55:13,440 --> 01:55:11,110
theologically mature and that's

2352
01:55:17,640 --> 01:55:13,450
something that I've hoped to play a role

2353
01:55:20,220 --> 01:55:17,650
doing in my life and because it is quite

2354
01:55:21,990 --> 01:55:20,230
frankly not a particularly theologically

2355
01:55:24,980 --> 01:55:22,000
mature religion certainly not when you

2356
01:55:27,870 --> 01:55:24,990
compare it to something like you know

2357
01:55:29,190 --> 01:55:27,880
you know even Catholicism or even even

2358
01:55:32,070 --> 01:55:29,200
Buddhism in a sense it doesn't have a

2359
01:55:34,560 --> 01:55:32,080
fully worked-out metaphysics so that's

2360
01:55:38,370 --> 01:55:34,570
something that I've been doing my part

2361
01:55:41,820 --> 01:55:38,380
to contribute to but broadly speaking I

2362
01:55:43,530 --> 01:55:41,830
think that I'm not it and I I don't mean

2363
01:55:46,290 --> 01:55:43,540
to bash Christianity by the layer or

2364
01:55:49,020 --> 01:55:46,300
give that they can give a sense that I'm

2365
01:55:51,270 --> 01:55:49,030
anti Christianity I'm very Pro true

2366
01:55:53,220 --> 01:55:51,280
Christianity I certainly don't like the

2367
01:55:56,790 --> 01:55:53,230
abuses that we've seen in the Catholic

2368
01:55:58,350 --> 01:55:56,800
Church or the excesses of Evangelic the

2369
01:56:00,600 --> 01:55:58,360
you know the the evangelical movement

2370
01:56:03,480 --> 01:56:00,610
and things like that I'm Pro true

2371
01:56:06,300 --> 01:56:03,490
Christianity I'm Pro spirituality and I

2372
01:56:08,400 --> 01:56:06,310
think that we need whatever it is we do

2373
01:56:11,200 --> 01:56:08,410
need spirituality because we live in a

2374
01:56:14,080 --> 01:56:11,210
culture that only offers us

2375
01:56:15,910 --> 01:56:14,090
stuff to buy and that's not enough we

2376
01:56:18,570 --> 01:56:15,920
have we're gonna take a break here in

2377
01:56:21,520 --> 01:56:18,580
two minutes help me understand as

2378
01:56:25,030 --> 01:56:21,530
quickly as you can when it comes to

2379
01:56:27,310 --> 01:56:25,040
paganism is there you know here you know

2380
01:56:30,910 --> 01:56:27,320
with a Catholicism and Christianity

2381
01:56:33,580 --> 01:56:30,920
where you have you know God right God

2382
01:56:36,460 --> 01:56:33,590
whatever that may be is there the same

2383
01:56:38,520 --> 01:56:36,470
thing in paganism is there is there a

2384
01:56:41,350 --> 01:56:38,530
God

2385
01:56:43,660 --> 01:56:41,360
well it depends on where you were angry

2386
01:56:45,460 --> 01:56:43,670
you look from I would say in the true

2387
01:56:46,090 --> 01:56:45,470
sense and and when you really get down

2388
01:56:49,090 --> 01:56:46,100
to it

2389
01:56:51,490 --> 01:56:49,100
paganism is very much similar to animism

2390
01:56:53,350 --> 01:56:51,500
or at the low reaches or the high

2391
01:56:55,180 --> 01:56:53,360
registers it's very similar to the

2392
01:56:57,880 --> 01:56:55,190
non-dual enlightenment traditions or

2393
01:57:00,040 --> 01:56:57,890
Advaita Vedanta where really the core of

2394
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paganism is seeing everything as divine

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you know God is kind of manifest as

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everything including all of nature and

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everything is holy nothing is separate

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from that primal unity and that it's

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very her medic in that sense is their

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eyes are those their Creator it did some

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some pagan traditions you know we'll

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talk about the goddess or the Horned God

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or they'll simply worship nature as the

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Creator but it DeGroot but it's not it

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tends not to be the judeo-christian God

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01:57:40,720 --> 01:57:36,560
and and is there a God that you can piss

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off and be banished somewhere well I

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think that most Piggin groups tend to be

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very you know have a broad way of

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01:57:51,100 --> 01:57:48,580
looking at this where they tend to

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01:57:53,650 --> 01:57:51,110
celebrate lots and lots of gods I mean

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01:57:55,540 --> 01:57:53,660
paganism is paulius polytheistic by its

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01:57:58,810 --> 01:57:55,550
very nature so you'll often see modern

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01:58:01,720 --> 01:57:58,820
pagans worshipping let's say Egyptian

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01:58:04,720 --> 01:58:01,730
gods and Hindu gods and Norse gods and

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01:58:06,010 --> 01:58:04,730
perhaps also Jesus and and putting all

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01:58:09,310 --> 01:58:06,020
this together in the sense that all

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01:58:11,560 --> 01:58:09,320
these gods can coexist and that perhaps

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01:58:14,010 --> 01:58:11,570
you go to different gods because they

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have different specialties for

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addressing different things in your life

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that's how I tend to see a practiced on

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the ground where people you know often

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you know people have a very very liberal

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01:58:26,350 --> 01:58:24,800
take well there

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interested in everything and they want

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to incorporate anything as long as it

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helps them it's an unbelievably

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fascinating subject when we talk about

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paganism I have tried to get to the

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bottom line but like you said there

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isn't a continuous not like India right

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there but the the traditions are broken

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in that there isn't one defining one

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defining book or text well we'll pick up

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[Applause]

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you want to know a secret

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I love police I really love ponies I'm

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serious I couldn't stay sane without

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poor mr. Brooks why fade to black

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this is fade to black

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welcome back fade to black I'm your

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super Church night one of our Halloween

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week tonight it's Jason Liu and tomorrow

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night right here Maureen wood is gonna

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be here sharing her favorite ghost

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stories with us and then Wednesday night

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is sha the moon which now Jason Wow all

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wanted to ask you a question when you

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look back at your childhood and you

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think about those warm and fuzzy

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celebrations and holidays for me I'm

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02:04:25,250 --> 02:04:22,740
just gonna say it it's Halloween those

2559
02:04:27,050 --> 02:04:25,260
are my fondest memories how about you

2560
02:04:29,810 --> 02:04:27,060
when you look back what do you think

2561
02:04:31,520 --> 02:04:29,820
about Oh always Halloween I know I love

2562
02:04:32,660 --> 02:04:31,530
Christmas I love Christmas to you but ya

2563
02:04:34,400 --> 02:04:32,670
know Halloween and I hope would always

2564
02:04:37,970 --> 02:04:34,410
you know dress up as a vampire or

2565
02:04:39,260 --> 02:04:37,980
something or yeah was I just like you

2566
02:04:42,020 --> 02:04:39,270
said at the beginning of our show it's

2567
02:04:44,810 --> 02:04:42,030
like it's that sense of Otherworld we

2568
02:04:47,270 --> 02:04:44,820
noticed the smell how it feels in in

2569
02:04:49,640 --> 02:04:47,280
autumn the the cold breeze things like

2570
02:04:52,340 --> 02:04:49,650
that it just adds up to this this

2571
02:04:57,020 --> 02:04:52,350
mystical time is it because you got all

2572
02:05:01,040 --> 02:04:57,030
jacked up on sugar for a month that must

2573
02:05:02,270 --> 02:05:01,050
be it yeah yeah he's looking back it's

2574
02:05:04,520 --> 02:05:02,280
right so there's probably like the worst

2575
02:05:06,290 --> 02:05:04,530
thing to do for growing children right

2576
02:05:08,660 --> 02:05:06,300
it just like completely like Jack them

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02:05:09,980 --> 02:05:08,670
up on a fruit those corn syrup you know

2578
02:05:12,650 --> 02:05:09,990
and it's not just the one day too

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02:05:14,060 --> 02:05:12,660
because if you stock up on the on all

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02:05:17,240 --> 02:05:14,070
the candy that you get you could be

2581
02:05:20,090 --> 02:05:17,250
eating that for weeks for weeks and even

2582
02:05:22,100 --> 02:05:20,100
you know what's funny at the end of you

2583
02:05:25,160 --> 02:05:22,110
know three weeks four weeks and here at

2584
02:05:27,230 --> 02:05:25,170
the bottom of your Halloween bag that

2585
02:05:29,450 --> 02:05:27,240
those candy the leftover stuff was

2586
02:05:32,690 --> 02:05:29,460
probably the worst to eat too as well

2587
02:05:34,580 --> 02:05:32,700
but he did did it all it was always it

2588
02:05:36,980 --> 02:05:34,590
was always the for me it was always the

2589
02:05:38,960 --> 02:05:36,990
plain tootsie rolls were what were left

2590
02:05:42,200 --> 02:05:38,970
at the bottom they're the least excited

2591
02:05:49,280 --> 02:05:42,210
at least exciting candy yeah like

2592
02:05:52,220 --> 02:05:49,290
dum-dums right oh man I just I loved I

2593
02:05:54,560 --> 02:05:52,230
never had a bad Halloween memory I

2594
02:05:57,729 --> 02:05:54,570
really don't you know there were some

2595
02:06:00,880 --> 02:05:57,739
questionable Christmases for me

2596
02:06:04,470 --> 02:06:00,890
in there yeah somebody just said

2597
02:06:09,760 --> 02:06:04,480
Snickers in my veins absolutely

2598
02:06:12,910 --> 02:06:09,770
absolutely you know and and I always I'm

2599
02:06:15,100 --> 02:06:12,920
just gonna share this with everybody one

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02:06:18,760 --> 02:06:15,110
of my siblings I'm not gonna say which

2601
02:06:23,170 --> 02:06:18,770
one loved milky way's I couldn't stand

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02:06:26,650 --> 02:06:23,180
milky way's so and and I was able to

2603
02:06:28,780 --> 02:06:26,660
trade milky ways for Snickers oh man and

2604
02:06:32,520 --> 02:06:28,790
I just thought you you're just you're

2605
02:06:36,220 --> 02:06:32,530
not that smart but I'll continue trading

2606
02:06:39,160 --> 02:06:36,230
ways for Snickers ed man I would just

2607
02:06:41,520 --> 02:06:39,170
get jacked up on sugar and and I would

2608
02:06:45,340 --> 02:06:41,530
let my kids do the same thing today I

2609
02:06:47,770 --> 02:06:45,350
just won't change this holiday I to me

2610
02:06:50,800 --> 02:06:47,780
it's just one of the best it's a

2611
02:06:53,380 --> 02:06:50,810
tradition yeah yeah it is it is now I

2612
02:06:56,890 --> 02:06:53,390
wanted to ask you let's go back to

2613
02:06:58,690 --> 02:06:56,900
warlocks for a second was John Dee no

2614
02:07:00,820 --> 02:06:58,700
I'm being serious mister stole from

2615
02:07:03,580 --> 02:07:00,830
Snickers two or less yes and it all

2616
02:07:07,000 --> 02:07:03,590
makes sense will you said vampire Circle

2617
02:07:12,190 --> 02:07:07,010
you said vampire was was John Dee a

2618
02:07:15,790 --> 02:07:12,200
warlock in in the classical sense well

2619
02:07:18,130 --> 02:07:15,800
he not really because if you if we

2620
02:07:21,970 --> 02:07:18,140
really want to get you know nitpicky

2621
02:07:25,870 --> 02:07:21,980
about it the witchcraft and the whole

2622
02:07:28,060 --> 02:07:25,880
witchcraft is really a much more it's

2623
02:07:29,860 --> 02:07:28,070
closer to European paganism like we were

2624
02:07:33,280 --> 02:07:29,870
talking about it's much more of a folk

2625
02:07:35,920 --> 02:07:33,290
tradition and like something that's done

2626
02:07:38,440 --> 02:07:35,930
around the hearth and is passed down in

2627
02:07:50,530 --> 02:07:38,450
family lineages John Dee was a hermetic

2628
02:07:53,170 --> 02:07:50,540
Estanislao monile magic which certainly

2629
02:07:55,540 --> 02:07:53,180
borrowed from witchcraft for instance in

2630
02:07:58,320 --> 02:07:55,550
the case of Cornelius Agrippa who

2631
02:08:00,400 --> 02:07:58,330
codified some of the rituals and

2632
02:08:01,900 --> 02:08:00,410
doctrines of witchcraft in his book

2633
02:08:04,720 --> 02:08:01,910
three three books of occult philosophy

2634
02:08:08,290 --> 02:08:04,730
and incorporated them into the corpus of

2635
02:08:11,380 --> 02:08:08,300
ceremonial magic but what John Dee was

2636
02:08:14,590 --> 02:08:11,390
doing was much closer to the science of

2637
02:08:16,900 --> 02:08:14,600
day then perhaps you know folk

2638
02:08:20,200 --> 02:08:16,910
witchcraft and in in that sense he

2639
02:08:20,980 --> 02:08:20,210
wasn't exactly a warlock if a warlock is

2640
02:08:23,230 --> 02:08:20,990
a male witch

2641
02:08:28,390 --> 02:08:23,240
although Edward Kelly his associate was

2642
02:08:32,890 --> 02:08:28,400
much closer to that that image the the

2643
02:08:33,880 --> 02:08:32,900
the the magic today and where we can

2644
02:08:37,660 --> 02:08:33,890
talk about

2645
02:08:41,290 --> 02:08:37,670
Wiccans or witches are they synonymous

2646
02:08:43,240 --> 02:08:41,300
or what is the difference well again

2647
02:08:45,390 --> 02:08:43,250
it's one of these things that when we're

2648
02:08:49,270 --> 02:08:45,400
talking about people today it doesn't

2649
02:08:51,220 --> 02:08:49,280
truly matter because well that's the

2650
02:08:52,720 --> 02:08:51,230
wrong way to put it ultimately at the

2651
02:08:54,240 --> 02:08:52,730
end of the day all of this stuff has

2652
02:08:57,010 --> 02:08:54,250
been constructed from people's

2653
02:08:58,480 --> 02:08:57,020
imaginations or reconstructed from books

2654
02:08:59,680 --> 02:08:58,490
when we're talking about neo-paganism

2655
02:09:01,630 --> 02:08:59,690
and that's the statement that's gonna

2656
02:09:03,940 --> 02:09:01,640
upset a lot of people but it's also true

2657
02:09:06,300 --> 02:09:03,950
that the modern neo-pagan movement and

2658
02:09:10,270 --> 02:09:06,310
witchcraft movement are largely

2659
02:09:12,730 --> 02:09:10,280
reconstructed and not really based in

2660
02:09:15,550 --> 02:09:12,740
many cases you know there's things taken

2661
02:09:18,040 --> 02:09:15,560
from fantasy novels there's things that

2662
02:09:20,140 --> 02:09:18,050
people have taken from TV shows and

2663
02:09:25,150 --> 02:09:20,150
movies and things like that or just from

2664
02:09:30,850 --> 02:09:25,160
their own intuition and so there's not

2665
02:09:34,690 --> 02:09:30,860
yeah yeah I mean it's it's a fuzzy

2666
02:09:36,550 --> 02:09:34,700
territory it's manat to get too specific

2667
02:09:38,050 --> 02:09:36,560
about these things because the

2668
02:09:40,870 --> 02:09:38,060
difference is at the end of the day are

2669
02:09:43,210 --> 02:09:40,880
pretty small if you really zoom out far

2670
02:09:46,960 --> 02:09:43,220
enough it's it's like that people in the

2671
02:09:49,390 --> 02:09:46,970
magic world love to label and categorize

2672
02:09:52,360 --> 02:09:49,400
themselves and say well oh I'm a I'm a

2673
02:09:55,510 --> 02:09:52,370
heathen or I'm a gardener II and Wiccan

2674
02:09:57,580 --> 02:09:55,520
or I'm a traditional witch or I'm at on

2675
02:09:59,830 --> 02:09:57,590
track or whatever but you know for the

2676
02:10:02,620 --> 02:09:59,840
majority of society it all looks the

2677
02:10:04,390 --> 02:10:02,630
same to them so you just zoom out and

2678
02:10:06,040 --> 02:10:04,400
look from the outside and there's not

2679
02:10:08,440 --> 02:10:06,050
really a whole lot of difference between

2680
02:10:10,200 --> 02:10:08,450
these belief structures and when you

2681
02:10:12,820 --> 02:10:10,210
kind of put them all together

2682
02:10:16,930 --> 02:10:12,830
demographically that's when you get that

2683
02:10:19,000 --> 02:10:16,940
figure that paganism as a whole is you

2684
02:10:21,400 --> 02:10:19,010
know the fastest growing religious group

2685
02:10:23,040 --> 02:10:21,410
in America but it's only when you see

2686
02:10:25,600 --> 02:10:23,050
all these things as kind of one

2687
02:10:27,549 --> 02:10:25,610
you know different flavors of one

2688
02:10:30,040 --> 02:10:27,559
phenomenon you know like the 31 flavors

2689
02:10:32,169 --> 02:10:30,050
at baskin-robbins which again will upset

2690
02:10:35,080 --> 02:10:32,179
people but it kind of is the truth if

2691
02:10:39,310 --> 02:10:35,090
you zoom out far enough well why is it

2692
02:10:42,939 --> 02:10:39,320
that help me understand this because you

2693
02:10:46,810 --> 02:10:42,949
do I don't understand when and I hear it

2694
02:10:48,759 --> 02:10:46,820
all the time where I'll hear you know

2695
02:10:51,160 --> 02:10:48,769
what I'm a Wiccan don't lump me and I'm

2696
02:10:54,700 --> 02:10:51,170
not a witch right don't lump me in with

2697
02:10:57,489 --> 02:10:54,710
that and I don't understand like you

2698
02:11:00,250 --> 02:10:57,499
said they're they're very quick to to

2699
02:11:03,580 --> 02:11:00,260
classify themselves in in that circle of

2700
02:11:07,719 --> 02:11:03,590
magic that out here on the outside it we

2701
02:11:09,850 --> 02:11:07,729
don't understand well look everyone

2702
02:11:11,859 --> 02:11:09,860
wants to be special and everyone wants

2703
02:11:13,870 --> 02:11:11,869
to you know have attention for their

2704
02:11:15,759 --> 02:11:13,880
flavor being slightly different and

2705
02:11:18,279 --> 02:11:15,769
that's not just magic I mean there's the

2706
02:11:20,770 --> 02:11:18,289
the phrase that you may know the tyranny

2707
02:11:23,589 --> 02:11:20,780
of small difference is that is basically

2708
02:11:25,959 --> 02:11:23,599
means that in any group where people are

2709
02:11:29,140 --> 02:11:25,969
pretty much all the same what happens is

2710
02:11:30,939 --> 02:11:29,150
people obsess over minor differences and

2711
02:11:32,259 --> 02:11:30,949
turn them into a way bigger deal than

2712
02:11:35,140 --> 02:11:32,269
they actually are

2713
02:11:38,890 --> 02:11:35,150
because one of the things both the

2714
02:11:42,160 --> 02:11:38,900
strengths and weaknesses of paganism or

2715
02:11:44,469 --> 02:11:42,170
or magic or or neo-paganism in general

2716
02:11:47,580 --> 02:11:44,479
is that it's a very individualistic

2717
02:11:49,959 --> 02:11:47,590
thing it's not as much congregational

2718
02:11:54,759 --> 02:11:49,969
outside of perhaps Wicca or things like

2719
02:11:57,100 --> 02:11:54,769
this whereas in Christianity or other

2720
02:11:59,109 --> 02:11:57,110
mass religions like that there's one

2721
02:12:01,989 --> 02:11:59,119
truth and it you go to church and

2722
02:12:03,759 --> 02:12:01,999
everyone's on the same page whereas in

2723
02:12:05,919 --> 02:12:03,769
the neo-pagan groups it's very much

2724
02:12:09,729 --> 02:12:05,929
about the individual about individual

2725
02:12:11,649 --> 02:12:09,739
empowerment about people becoming you

2726
02:12:14,229 --> 02:12:11,659
know what living the life they want to

2727
02:12:16,600 --> 02:12:14,239
live becoming special in some way and so

2728
02:12:19,060 --> 02:12:16,610
what ends up happening is that's very

2729
02:12:21,009 --> 02:12:19,070
strong that's a real strength because

2730
02:12:22,719 --> 02:12:21,019
people make their own way and it's it's

2731
02:12:24,819 --> 02:12:22,729
a spirituality that they create for

2732
02:12:28,089 --> 02:12:24,829
themselves and carve out for themselves

2733
02:12:32,200 --> 02:12:28,099
and almost create as an artistic work

2734
02:12:33,549 --> 02:12:32,210
but it becomes a weakness because for

2735
02:12:36,219 --> 02:12:33,559
the reason we're discussing where

2736
02:12:36,850 --> 02:12:36,229
there's no uniformity of belief between

2737
02:12:43,210 --> 02:12:36,860
people

2738
02:12:44,770 --> 02:12:43,220
tyranny of small differences and saying

2739
02:12:46,870 --> 02:12:44,780
well you know oh well you're not doing

2740
02:12:50,320 --> 02:12:46,880
it you're you're a Wiccan and I'm a

2741
02:12:53,590 --> 02:12:50,330
fella might so I'm obviously totally on

2742
02:12:55,840 --> 02:12:53,600
different pages and you know it becomes

2743
02:12:57,610 --> 02:12:55,850
it's like it's like trying to have an

2744
02:12:59,260 --> 02:12:57,620
anarchist meeting you know like that old

2745
02:13:02,110 --> 02:12:59,270
joke you know you it's like herding cats

2746
02:13:03,910 --> 02:13:02,120
and so that's what that becomes a

2747
02:13:05,590 --> 02:13:03,920
weakness ultimately of neo-paganism

2748
02:13:08,770 --> 02:13:05,600
where everyone is so individualistic

2749
02:13:12,100 --> 02:13:08,780
that they find it hard to all get on the

2750
02:13:13,540 --> 02:13:12,110
same page and so I don't know I mean for

2751
02:13:15,820 --> 02:13:13,550
people on the outside that must seem

2752
02:13:18,790 --> 02:13:15,830
very confusing it's also confusing on

2753
02:13:22,420 --> 02:13:18,800
the inside and but that's kind of a deal

2754
02:13:26,050 --> 02:13:22,430
with with paganism and then we have one

2755
02:13:31,570 --> 02:13:26,060
of the scariest words out there that has

2756
02:13:35,260 --> 02:13:31,580
been very generalized is a cult and when

2757
02:13:39,010 --> 02:13:35,270
we hear most of society when they hear a

2758
02:13:41,050 --> 02:13:39,020
cult they immediately go to the dark

2759
02:13:43,000 --> 02:13:41,060
side and then you have the defenders of

2760
02:13:47,670 --> 02:13:43,010
the word which will say no it just means

2761
02:13:52,000 --> 02:13:47,680
hidden well you know what it's hard to

2762
02:13:55,240 --> 02:13:52,010
change the mind or mindsets when it

2763
02:13:57,730 --> 02:13:55,250
comes to a word like the occult let's

2764
02:14:02,430 --> 02:13:57,740
let's clearly define it now because the

2765
02:14:06,520 --> 02:14:02,440
occult has been now associated with with

2766
02:14:10,420 --> 02:14:06,530
Halloween or or darkness when certainly

2767
02:14:14,440 --> 02:14:10,430
that is not the case or is it right

2768
02:14:16,750 --> 02:14:14,450
well I the occult is too broad of a term

2769
02:14:19,000 --> 02:14:16,760
I you know in my work I used the the

2770
02:14:21,640 --> 02:14:19,010
phrase Western esoteric tradition which

2771
02:14:23,530 --> 02:14:21,650
is really the hidden spiritual tradition

2772
02:14:26,320 --> 02:14:23,540
of the West that is the parent tradition

2773
02:14:27,940 --> 02:14:26,330
of science and it has a run throughout

2774
02:14:30,970 --> 02:14:27,950
the you know and could also be called

2775
02:14:32,650 --> 02:14:30,980
Hermeticism and we need to be specific

2776
02:14:36,040 --> 02:14:32,660
about terms like that but in general

2777
02:14:39,730 --> 02:14:36,050
occult means hidden and it means you

2778
02:14:43,840 --> 02:14:39,740
know a form of spirituality that is not

2779
02:14:45,400 --> 02:14:43,850
generally practiced by the masses so but

2780
02:14:48,550 --> 02:14:45,410
there was a real issue there which is

2781
02:14:50,160 --> 02:14:48,560
we've had decades of fear propaganda

2782
02:14:51,630 --> 02:14:50,170
from Hollywood

2783
02:14:53,550 --> 02:14:51,640
there's a big round of it that's just

2784
02:14:55,620 --> 02:14:53,560
happened again you know of course in the

2785
02:14:59,430 --> 02:14:55,630
70s there were movies like The Exorcist

2786
02:15:03,390 --> 02:14:59,440
and Rosemary's Baby that have zero to do

2787
02:15:04,980 --> 02:15:03,400
with anything in neo-paganism or as the

2788
02:15:07,530 --> 02:15:04,990
occult and they're just shock movies

2789
02:15:10,410 --> 02:15:07,540
largely designed to scare people away

2790
02:15:14,180 --> 02:15:10,420
from straying too far perhaps from the

2791
02:15:16,410 --> 02:15:14,190
church but and and those movies really

2792
02:15:18,720 --> 02:15:16,420
conditioned a whole generation and we're

2793
02:15:21,240 --> 02:15:18,730
seeing another wave of it right now like

2794
02:15:23,100 --> 02:15:21,250
with this movie hereditary that just

2795
02:15:24,900 --> 02:15:23,110
came out which I thought was well done

2796
02:15:26,790 --> 02:15:24,910
but is you know it just total it's like

2797
02:15:28,620 --> 02:15:26,800
a scared it's like a shocked movie it's

2798
02:15:31,560 --> 02:15:28,630
like a scared one of these scared

2799
02:15:33,090 --> 02:15:31,570
straight movies they show kids to tell

2800
02:15:35,720 --> 02:15:33,100
them not to do drugs I mean like that's

2801
02:15:38,730 --> 02:15:35,730
kind of the deal with these movies and

2802
02:15:42,180 --> 02:15:38,740
alternative spirituality or movies like

2803
02:15:44,160 --> 02:15:42,190
I don't know paranormal activity or you

2804
02:15:45,780 --> 02:15:44,170
know recent movies like a dark song and

2805
02:15:48,090 --> 02:15:45,790
there's been a bunch of a big crop of

2806
02:15:49,680 --> 02:15:48,100
them recently and I don't think it's a

2807
02:15:52,200 --> 02:15:49,690
mistake I don't think it's random

2808
02:15:54,630 --> 02:15:52,210
because people are you know the young

2809
02:15:56,700 --> 02:15:54,640
people in particular are fascinated with

2810
02:15:58,950 --> 02:15:56,710
magic and it's like I said becoming the

2811
02:16:01,800 --> 02:15:58,960
fastest growing religious movement in

2812
02:16:04,290 --> 02:16:01,810
the country and that's quite threatening

2813
02:16:06,630 --> 02:16:04,300
to the religious authorities now the

2814
02:16:10,110 --> 02:16:06,640
converse of that is that you know for

2815
02:16:11,930 --> 02:16:10,120
instance practitioners of alternative

2816
02:16:14,790 --> 02:16:11,940
spirituality are always accused of

2817
02:16:16,350 --> 02:16:14,800
various fanciful things from Hollywood

2818
02:16:19,560 --> 02:16:16,360
but if you look at just the headlines

2819
02:16:21,030 --> 02:16:19,570
today it tends to be organized religion

2820
02:16:22,560 --> 02:16:21,040
that is responsible for this I mean I

2821
02:16:24,000 --> 02:16:22,570
don't need to repeat all the headlines

2822
02:16:26,690 --> 02:16:24,010
that have been coming out about the

2823
02:16:29,640 --> 02:16:26,700
Catholic Church and is organized

2824
02:16:31,680 --> 02:16:29,650
decades-long child sexual abuse you know

2825
02:16:34,040 --> 02:16:31,690
in the Catholic Church by and large is

2826
02:16:37,169 --> 02:16:34,050
the source of these great crimes and

2827
02:16:40,980 --> 02:16:37,179
there's a lot of shadow projection going

2828
02:16:43,140 --> 02:16:40,990
on and you know there's a shadow

2829
02:16:45,060 --> 02:16:43,150
projection is something that people do

2830
02:16:47,790 --> 02:16:45,070
it's a psychological mechanism and

2831
02:16:51,930 --> 02:16:47,800
that's you know it's a terrible thing

2832
02:16:56,340 --> 02:16:51,940
and well let's let's stay on that for a

2833
02:16:59,310 --> 02:16:56,350
second so now we have that

2834
02:17:02,281 --> 02:16:59,320
word a cult that has all of these

2835
02:17:04,321 --> 02:17:02,291
connotations I will agree with you when

2836
02:17:06,480 --> 02:17:04,331
you go back to what happened in the 70s

2837
02:17:08,340 --> 02:17:06,490
with the Exorcist and with Rosemary's

2838
02:17:11,010 --> 02:17:08,350
Baby I mean we have to be honest here

2839
02:17:14,460 --> 02:17:11,020
that last 10 minutes of Rosemary's Baby

2840
02:17:16,800 --> 02:17:14,470
the first you know three-quarters of the

2841
02:17:18,781 --> 02:17:16,810
film were a great set up and then that

2842
02:17:21,241 --> 02:17:18,791
last ten minutes was about as scary and

2843
02:17:23,340 --> 02:17:21,251
as frightening as it gets and now we

2844
02:17:26,430 --> 02:17:23,350
have the tie-in with the occult and

2845
02:17:30,840 --> 02:17:26,440
today the you can't shake it it's like a

2846
02:17:34,920 --> 02:17:30,850
decades-long tarnishing of the word that

2847
02:17:38,371 --> 02:17:34,930
it may not ever be overcome will it well

2848
02:17:39,630 --> 02:17:38,381
I know I think it will be overcome

2849
02:17:41,791 --> 02:17:39,640
because I think we have a whole

2850
02:17:43,291 --> 02:17:41,801
generation of kids who were I mean yes

2851
02:17:46,081 --> 02:17:43,301
there's that but we've also had a whole

2852
02:17:49,531 --> 02:17:46,091
generation of kids raised on very

2853
02:17:51,090 --> 02:17:49,541
positive media like Harry Potter or you

2854
02:17:53,760 --> 02:17:51,100
know again charmed and things like this

2855
02:17:56,821 --> 02:17:53,770
and I don't think they can put the they

2856
02:17:58,951 --> 02:17:56,831
can't put the the cat back in the box as

2857
02:18:01,081 --> 02:17:58,961
it were and we have the internet now

2858
02:18:02,940 --> 02:18:01,091
people have access to good media and

2859
02:18:05,550 --> 02:18:02,950
they can read these things for

2860
02:18:07,201 --> 02:18:05,560
themselves just in the sense that I mean

2861
02:18:10,440 --> 02:18:07,211
even if you look at I mean for instance

2862
02:18:12,991 --> 02:18:10,450
looking at how marijuana was treated in

2863
02:18:15,630 --> 02:18:13,001
the 1930s 40s and 50s and that crazy

2864
02:18:17,130 --> 02:18:15,640
movie reefer madness and all of that

2865
02:18:19,680 --> 02:18:17,140
where they they you know they had this

2866
02:18:23,100 --> 02:18:19,690
movie about oh yeah you know like people

2867
02:18:25,770 --> 02:18:23,110
carry around marijuana joints in in

2868
02:18:27,630 --> 02:18:25,780
tomato cans and they'd smoke them and

2869
02:18:30,411 --> 02:18:27,640
then they turn into axe murderers and

2870
02:18:34,470 --> 02:18:30,421
just this total nonsense propaganda

2871
02:18:38,100 --> 02:18:34,480
insanity and I think that as as people

2872
02:18:41,100 --> 02:18:38,110
become more informed and they begin to

2873
02:18:45,480 --> 02:18:41,110
realize the real crux of it is realizing

2874
02:18:48,560 --> 02:18:45,490
that spirituality is something that we

2875
02:18:51,741 --> 02:18:48,570
should take responsibility for and as a

2876
02:18:54,480 --> 02:18:51,751
conversation and is something that you

2877
02:18:56,371 --> 02:18:54,490
train I mean spirituality is not just

2878
02:18:57,541 --> 02:18:56,381
something you accept or a Dogma it's

2879
02:18:59,220 --> 02:18:57,551
something you have to train in like

2880
02:19:00,630 --> 02:18:59,230
going to the gym meditation you have to

2881
02:19:02,760 --> 02:19:00,640
do everyday you know you have to focus

2882
02:19:05,550 --> 02:19:02,770
on what you truly want in life every day

2883
02:19:06,480 --> 02:19:05,560
and if you loo if you if you stop using

2884
02:19:09,060 --> 02:19:06,490
it you lose it

2885
02:19:10,049 --> 02:19:09,070
so as people begin to come to realize

2886
02:19:12,660 --> 02:19:10,059
that

2887
02:19:15,000 --> 02:19:12,670
you know the spirituality is something

2888
02:19:16,259 --> 02:19:15,010
that humanity needs to get good at just

2889
02:19:19,200 --> 02:19:16,269
as much as it's gotten good at

2890
02:19:21,750 --> 02:19:19,210
technology and materialism then these

2891
02:19:23,669 --> 02:19:21,760
you know these superstitions will fade

2892
02:19:25,859 --> 02:19:23,679
away and be shown to be just that you

2893
02:19:29,099 --> 02:19:25,869
know the superstition of scared people

2894
02:19:35,000 --> 02:19:29,109
and while speaking of Rosemary's Baby

2895
02:19:39,149 --> 02:19:35,010
which tended to suggest a coven or group

2896
02:19:42,299 --> 02:19:39,159
right that that's ultimately what was

2897
02:19:46,109 --> 02:19:42,309
there what's the difference between like

2898
02:19:49,109 --> 02:19:46,119
a solitary witch and and ones that are

2899
02:19:50,240 --> 02:19:49,119
part of a coven and are you part of a

2900
02:19:54,359 --> 02:19:50,250
coven

2901
02:19:58,500 --> 02:19:54,369
no I only I never leave the house unless

2902
02:20:01,200 --> 02:19:58,510
it's to talk to you give me I'm in

2903
02:20:06,120 --> 02:20:01,210
exceedingly boring a normal person

2904
02:20:08,340 --> 02:20:06,130
no I I think that well let's see

2905
02:20:10,050 --> 02:20:08,350
well sometimes you know some people are

2906
02:20:12,809 --> 02:20:10,060
social and some are I mean like some

2907
02:20:17,670 --> 02:20:12,819
people and get into groups to explore

2908
02:20:19,740 --> 02:20:17,680
things like this and you know I mean

2909
02:20:23,969 --> 02:20:19,750
what's a coven you know in our modern

2910
02:20:26,250 --> 02:20:23,979
world it's you know of five exceedingly

2911
02:20:28,950 --> 02:20:26,260
attractive 23 year-olds in Brooklyn you

2912
02:20:31,679 --> 02:20:28,960
know like that's right that's you know

2913
02:20:34,380 --> 02:20:31,689
it's it's it's like a group of friends I

2914
02:20:37,979 --> 02:20:34,390
mean I don't think it's all these all

2915
02:20:39,990 --> 02:20:37,989
these sinister things need to go in my

2916
02:20:42,660 --> 02:20:40,000
opinion and as somebody who's spent a

2917
02:20:45,120 --> 02:20:42,670
lot of time trying to modernize these

2918
02:20:47,160 --> 02:20:45,130
traditions it all needs to go and it

2919
02:20:49,769 --> 02:20:47,170
needs to go in the sense of people

2920
02:20:52,109 --> 02:20:49,779
putting these sinister images on magic

2921
02:20:53,729 --> 02:20:52,119
to scare people but it also needs to go

2922
02:20:55,559 --> 02:20:53,739
from the other side which is the Kitsch

2923
02:20:57,840 --> 02:20:55,569
factor I think that people who are into

2924
02:21:00,660 --> 02:20:57,850
these things very often adopt the

2925
02:21:03,090 --> 02:21:00,670
symbols of like you know Satanism or

2926
02:21:05,729 --> 02:21:03,100
Rosemary's Baby or you know Hammer

2927
02:21:08,070 --> 02:21:05,739
horror movies and they kind of like they

2928
02:21:10,679 --> 02:21:08,080
kind of own it they wear it but it's

2929
02:21:12,300 --> 02:21:10,689
just so kitschy that at a certain point

2930
02:21:14,670 --> 02:21:12,310
we just have to go okay

2931
02:21:16,530 --> 02:21:14,680
what is actually useful about these

2932
02:21:19,381 --> 02:21:16,540
things there's a real technology here

2933
02:21:22,171 --> 02:21:19,391
what are the things within this vast

2934
02:21:24,091 --> 02:21:22,181
field of magic or neo-paganism in

2935
02:21:26,190 --> 02:21:24,101
general that are actually useful

2936
02:21:28,591 --> 02:21:26,200
eken and can actually make our lives

2937
02:21:31,470 --> 02:21:28,601
better and let's just focus on that and

2938
02:21:32,970 --> 02:21:31,480
drop the BS that's my view on and I

2939
02:21:35,370 --> 02:21:32,980
think all of that stuff is window

2940
02:21:37,171 --> 02:21:35,380
dressing and play-acting and you

2941
02:21:39,841 --> 02:21:37,181
wouldn't catch me dead you know dressing

2942
02:21:41,640 --> 02:21:39,851
up in a robe or you know any of that

2943
02:21:44,551 --> 02:21:41,650
silliness you know my version of magic

2944
02:21:46,801 --> 02:21:44,561
is focusing on exactly what I want in my

2945
02:21:48,930 --> 02:21:46,811
life laying out a plan to get there

2946
02:21:52,831 --> 02:21:48,940
getting the best information that I can

2947
02:21:55,801 --> 02:21:52,841
to get there and then enacting my will

2948
02:21:58,320 --> 02:21:55,811
within the world which I don't need you

2949
02:22:00,780 --> 02:21:58,330
know silly play-acting implements to do

2950
02:22:03,450 --> 02:22:00,790
or you know this kind of Hammer horror

2951
02:22:05,551 --> 02:22:03,460
image of the cauldron and you know for

2952
02:22:08,551 --> 02:22:05,561
me it's like you know it's it's directed

2953
02:22:10,801 --> 02:22:08,561
will it's making is changing reality and

2954
02:22:13,530 --> 02:22:10,811
conformity with will and to do that I'll

2955
02:22:15,480 --> 02:22:13,540
use whatever the best technic tools are

2956
02:22:20,700 --> 02:22:15,490
it's not all this silly stuff it's like

2957
02:22:22,440 --> 02:22:20,710
you know Google you know computers you

2958
02:22:24,780 --> 02:22:22,450
know extremely advanced information

2959
02:22:28,140 --> 02:22:24,790
technology things like this whatever the

2960
02:22:31,530 --> 02:22:28,150
best tools I can get to enact my will my

2961
02:22:33,690 --> 02:22:31,540
will meaning what I truly want to be

2962
02:22:36,390 --> 02:22:33,700
doing with my life you know it's like

2963
02:22:39,150 --> 02:22:36,400
how do I live the V life that I am meant

2964
02:22:41,310 --> 02:22:39,160
to live that's what it's about instead

2965
02:22:43,921 --> 02:22:41,320
of going back to sleep and being carried

2966
02:22:46,620 --> 02:22:43,931
along by the by the current of the world

2967
02:22:48,570 --> 02:22:46,630
that leads to nowhere which is what most

2968
02:22:52,291 --> 02:22:48,580
people do you know carried away by the

2969
02:22:54,570 --> 02:22:52,301
river of Netflix into Nowheresville it's

2970
02:22:56,011 --> 02:22:54,580
about finding your will and enacting it

2971
02:22:57,930 --> 02:22:56,021
in the world and that means living the

2972
02:23:00,841 --> 02:22:57,940
life that you're truly meant to live and

2973
02:23:03,690 --> 02:23:00,851
everything else is stage props and all

2974
02:23:05,251 --> 02:23:03,700
this spooky stuff is Hollywood well I'm

2975
02:23:07,591 --> 02:23:05,261
just gonna let the audience know I've

2976
02:23:10,591 --> 02:23:07,601
seen Jason's house and he bought the

2977
02:23:13,530 --> 02:23:10,601
Munsters house and that's where he lives

2978
02:23:16,831 --> 02:23:13,540
now and it's time for you to come clean

2979
02:23:20,910 --> 02:23:16,841
Jason it's okay it's okay

2980
02:23:24,301 --> 02:23:20,920
I actually am Herman you are Herman but

2981
02:23:28,801 --> 02:23:24,311
where you're about that tall years ago

2982
02:23:32,160 --> 02:23:28,811
I'm gonna go back to the early 90s maybe

2983
02:23:34,890 --> 02:23:32,170
around 1990 I went over

2984
02:23:37,200 --> 02:23:34,900
to friends house I was with another

2985
02:23:42,570 --> 02:23:37,210
friend and we went into this apartment

2986
02:23:43,710 --> 02:23:42,580
and on the floor in the carpet was a

2987
02:23:47,100 --> 02:23:43,720
pentagram

2988
02:23:50,310 --> 02:23:47,110
it was probably five feet in diameter

2989
02:23:53,610 --> 02:23:50,320
and I'm look it's in the carpet and it's

2990
02:23:58,590 --> 02:23:53,620
made with a melted black candle wax

2991
02:24:03,719 --> 02:23:58,600
right now I go in and I see this and I

2992
02:24:06,210 --> 02:24:03,729
was completely freaked out now when I

2993
02:24:08,700 --> 02:24:06,220
saw it I was affected

2994
02:24:11,990 --> 02:24:08,710
it was the it's you know it's like you

2995
02:24:14,880 --> 02:24:12,000
know any other decidual or any other

2996
02:24:17,670 --> 02:24:14,890
symbol that you see like this but I was

2997
02:24:21,560 --> 02:24:17,680
immediately affected by it and it was

2998
02:24:26,820 --> 02:24:21,570
powerful now the person that did this

2999
02:24:30,360 --> 02:24:26,830
obviously was practicing something and I

3000
02:24:31,950 --> 02:24:30,370
it it changed my view of this person

3001
02:24:35,640 --> 02:24:31,960
forever somebody that I had known for a

3002
02:24:39,870 --> 02:24:35,650
long time why would somebody do that are

3003
02:24:42,810 --> 02:24:39,880
they practicing something that that this

3004
02:24:46,590 --> 02:24:42,820
is a necessity Deana Sarah I'm going

3005
02:24:50,270 --> 02:24:46,600
with us were somebody has taken that

3006
02:24:52,290 --> 02:24:50,280
kind of drastic step in their own home

3007
02:24:57,960 --> 02:24:52,300
it could have just been some weird

3008
02:25:00,570 --> 02:24:57,970
swingers thing I don't know there's

3009
02:25:04,440 --> 02:25:00,580
always that option well played well

3010
02:25:10,380 --> 02:25:04,450
played but broadly speaking I mean I I

3011
02:25:12,630 --> 02:25:10,390
don't know I look there's so many magic

3012
02:25:14,490 --> 02:25:12,640
is just a word right and people bring

3013
02:25:16,440 --> 02:25:14,500
their own level of consciousness to it

3014
02:25:19,200 --> 02:25:16,450
and and I tend to use magic as a tool

3015
02:25:22,020 --> 02:25:19,210
for expressing universal truths to the

3016
02:25:24,330 --> 02:25:22,030
world and focusing on what's truly good

3017
02:25:26,550 --> 02:25:24,340
in life but that you know lots of people

3018
02:25:30,120 --> 02:25:26,560
have a have a different you know perhaps

3019
02:25:33,030 --> 02:25:30,130
less you know a less well constructed

3020
02:25:35,870 --> 02:25:33,040
view of it and yeah I mean you know

3021
02:25:39,500 --> 02:25:35,880
people can you know symbols can be

3022
02:25:44,040 --> 02:25:39,510
symbols can be focuses or foci for

3023
02:25:45,490 --> 02:25:44,050
energies intention magical intent and

3024
02:25:47,800 --> 02:25:45,500
emotion

3025
02:25:49,930 --> 02:25:47,810
just like anything else can be and you

3026
02:25:52,540 --> 02:25:49,940
know if somebody you can make a symbol

3027
02:25:55,240 --> 02:25:52,550
and you can you know if somebody puts

3028
02:25:57,250 --> 02:25:55,250
their own negativity into it because

3029
02:25:59,680 --> 02:25:57,260
they're a negative person then yeah

3030
02:26:01,240 --> 02:25:59,690
you're gonna feel that negative vibe

3031
02:26:04,210 --> 02:26:01,250
around it and it's not gonna be pleasant

3032
02:26:06,490 --> 02:26:04,220
but it's not really that's not something

3033
02:26:08,140 --> 02:26:06,500
that's inherent in magic itself it's

3034
02:26:10,120 --> 02:26:08,150
just that's how they've used the tool

3035
02:26:11,830 --> 02:26:10,130
you know it's like magic is just a tool

3036
02:26:14,410 --> 02:26:11,840
you can use it the right way or you can

3037
02:26:16,240 --> 02:26:14,420
use it the wrong way and there are many

3038
02:26:18,280 --> 02:26:16,250
people that use it the wrong way and

3039
02:26:21,070 --> 02:26:18,290
that by the way that tends not to be

3040
02:26:24,520 --> 02:26:21,080
some super sinister thing it just tends

3041
02:26:26,410 --> 02:26:24,530
to be kind of lame and I'm not

3042
02:26:28,330 --> 02:26:26,420
particularly productive and one of the

3043
02:26:29,890 --> 02:26:28,340
reasons why I teach magic is to show

3044
02:26:32,320 --> 02:26:29,900
people there actually is a right way to

3045
02:26:35,230 --> 02:26:32,330
do it it's will be bit more beneficial

3046
02:26:37,030 --> 02:26:35,240
for everyone in general and more

3047
02:26:38,770 --> 02:26:37,040
positive and more supportive of the good

3048
02:26:41,500 --> 02:26:38,780
things in life well I'll tell you what

3049
02:26:43,390 --> 02:26:41,510
the effect on me and we're gonna take a

3050
02:26:45,790 --> 02:26:43,400
break right here but after seeing that

3051
02:26:48,580 --> 02:26:45,800
I'm nice I'm a nice I'm nice to

3052
02:26:52,690 --> 02:26:48,590
everybody but to this particular person

3053
02:26:58,060 --> 02:26:52,700
I was exceedingly nice and pleasant and

3054
02:27:01,660 --> 02:26:58,070
I mean I didn't want any negative vibes

3055
02:27:07,680 --> 02:27:01,670
it was just so funny how it affected me

3056
02:27:10,960 --> 02:27:07,690
it really really did I absolutely I

3057
02:27:13,420 --> 02:27:10,970
respect everybody but the respect went

3058
02:27:17,320 --> 02:27:13,430
up a level in that I did not want to

3059
02:27:20,530 --> 02:27:17,330
offend I did not I didn't want any evil

3060
02:27:23,860 --> 02:27:20,540
spells projected on me yeah but I'm

3061
02:27:27,990 --> 02:27:23,870
serious it really it really shook me it

3062
02:27:30,820 --> 02:27:28,000
did it and and the other part is that

3063
02:27:35,010 --> 02:27:30,830
that I thought about was that I wonder

3064
02:27:37,600 --> 02:27:35,020
how many people come into this apartment

3065
02:27:40,900 --> 02:27:37,610
right how many people are exposed to

3066
02:27:43,900 --> 02:27:40,910
this and and I am right now and why is

3067
02:27:46,090 --> 02:27:43,910
this going down right all of that I mean

3068
02:27:49,720 --> 02:27:46,100
it's it's psychological man it was it

3069
02:27:52,960 --> 02:27:49,730
was powerful Wow well you know becoming

3070
02:27:55,540 --> 02:27:52,970
aware of where your comfort level is is

3071
02:27:57,580 --> 02:27:55,550
also a big part of obviously not just

3072
02:27:58,910 --> 02:27:57,590
magic but spiritual growth in general

3073
02:28:02,060 --> 02:27:58,920
and becoming aware of

3074
02:28:03,620 --> 02:28:02,070
subtle levels of things like you're

3075
02:28:05,090 --> 02:28:03,630
describing you know you felt that it was

3076
02:28:06,980 --> 02:28:05,100
not right for you that's that's an

3077
02:28:09,620 --> 02:28:06,990
important it's like an immune response

3078
02:28:12,620 --> 02:28:09,630
and as we become more energetically and

3079
02:28:17,030 --> 02:28:12,630
spiritually I don't want to say advanced

3080
02:28:19,640 --> 02:28:17,040
but practiced right we get better at you

3081
02:28:21,830 --> 02:28:19,650
you know finding what is right for us

3082
02:28:24,410 --> 02:28:21,840
and what's not and that's also a part of

3083
02:28:26,330 --> 02:28:24,420
magic is understanding what's what's not

3084
02:28:28,700 --> 02:28:26,340
what's healthy and what's not and and

3085
02:28:30,200 --> 02:28:28,710
how to steer away and of course when

3086
02:28:31,880 --> 02:28:30,210
you're steering away from something like

3087
02:28:34,429 --> 02:28:31,890
that it's not just that you're steering

3088
02:28:37,640 --> 02:28:34,439
away from it you're steering towards

3089
02:28:40,010 --> 02:28:37,650
what is more correct for you so it's a

3090
02:28:42,770 --> 02:28:40,020
learning experience where you're you're

3091
02:28:44,750 --> 02:28:42,780
you're learning what what feels right

3092
02:28:47,150 --> 02:28:44,760
for you and what feels right for you is

3093
02:28:50,030 --> 02:28:47,160
always what is what is true more true

3094
02:28:51,740 --> 02:28:50,040
for you and what is you know meant that

3095
02:28:54,170 --> 02:28:51,750
you know the frequency of life that is

3096
02:28:56,060 --> 02:28:54,180
is where you're meant to be yeah and you

3097
02:28:59,210 --> 02:28:56,070
didn't ask me if I went back but I'll

3098
02:29:02,330 --> 02:28:59,220
answer that question no did you go back

3099
02:29:02,810 --> 02:29:02,340
with a Ghostbusters proton I know I know

3100
02:29:06,920 --> 02:29:02,820
right

3101
02:29:08,540 --> 02:29:06,930
the answer is no and I remember over the

3102
02:29:10,370 --> 02:29:08,550
years a couple of times was like hey you

3103
02:29:13,429 --> 02:29:10,380
know let's let's go over now that's cool

3104
02:29:15,350 --> 02:29:13,439
I'm cool I'm going this way

3105
02:29:17,000 --> 02:29:15,360
let's take a break chase I want to keep

3106
02:29:19,520 --> 02:29:17,010
you for a little over time tonight if

3107
02:29:21,410 --> 02:29:19,530
that's okay because I want to discuss

3108
02:29:24,200 --> 02:29:21,420
you touched upon this a couple of times

3109
02:29:27,860 --> 02:29:24,210
but now I do I want to talk about your

3110
02:29:29,840 --> 02:29:27,870
magic what you practice what type the

3111
02:29:32,390 --> 02:29:29,850
questions are flying in here to Twitter

3112
02:29:33,770 --> 02:29:32,400
and we got to get to the bottom of all

3113
02:29:35,420 --> 02:29:33,780
of that and we'll do that after this

3114
02:29:39,020 --> 02:29:35,430
short break or I guess tonight jasonlew

3115
02:29:40,400 --> 02:29:39,030
night one of Halloween week here on fade

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to black we'll be right back stay with

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[Music]

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02:34:30,820 --> 02:34:28,750
welcome back feed the Black Knight one

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02:34:32,890 --> 02:34:30,830
of our Halloween week tonight it is

3201
02:34:35,650 --> 02:34:32,900
jasonlew tomorrow night Maureen woods

3202
02:34:36,160 --> 02:34:35,660
gonna be here ghost stories Wednesday

3203
02:34:40,120 --> 02:34:36,170
night

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02:34:42,400 --> 02:34:40,130
sha balloon witch and I gotta tell you

3205
02:34:44,470 --> 02:34:42,410
I've got to give Jason some credit man

3206
02:34:45,970 --> 02:34:44,480
he's pretty powerful with the magic

3207
02:34:48,310 --> 02:34:45,980
spells because I was walking down the

3208
02:34:51,160 --> 02:34:48,320
hallway during the break taking a break

3209
02:34:54,220 --> 02:34:51,170
and this thing popped in my head Jimmy

3210
02:34:59,250 --> 02:34:54,230
you will talk about my podcast after the

3211
02:35:01,780 --> 02:34:59,260
break that was cool how did you do that

3212
02:35:04,180 --> 02:35:01,790
magician never reveals his secrets and

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02:35:07,720 --> 02:35:04,190
apparently not working everybody check

3214
02:35:09,880 --> 02:35:07,730
out your podcast Jason so my podcast is

3215
02:35:12,480 --> 02:35:09,890
called ultra culture with jason louvre

3216
02:35:14,530 --> 02:35:12,490
you can find it in the iTunes Store or

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02:35:17,410 --> 02:35:14,540
anywhere you can get podcasts including

3218
02:35:21,130 --> 02:35:17,420
Spotify you can also find it at my web

3219
02:35:21,400 --> 02:35:21,140
page which is Jason lucam it's going

3220
02:35:23,410 --> 02:35:21,410
great

3221
02:35:25,390 --> 02:35:23,420
got another with we've thanks to some

3222
02:35:28,540 --> 02:35:25,400
extra thanks to Jimmy - you've been

3223
02:35:30,100 --> 02:35:28,550
helping me with some advice on on proper

3224
02:35:31,600 --> 02:35:30,110
my technique and things like that it's

3225
02:35:33,940 --> 02:35:31,610
been very very helpful in growing the

3226
02:35:36,300 --> 02:35:33,950
show yeah you know congratulations on

3227
02:35:39,550 --> 02:35:36,310
that and I've been watching the comments

3228
02:35:43,320 --> 02:35:39,560
with everybody about your podcast and it

3229
02:35:46,930 --> 02:35:43,330
seems to be well I don't want to say

3230
02:35:50,050 --> 02:35:46,940
that it's been how do I want to say this

3231
02:35:52,511 --> 02:35:50,060
correctly that everybody just digs it

3232
02:35:54,370 --> 02:35:52,521
right and I've been watching the

3233
02:35:56,530 --> 02:35:54,380
comments and I do follow you on twitter

3234
02:35:59,320 --> 02:35:56,540
and so congratulations man seriously

3235
02:36:01,300 --> 02:35:59,330
it's it's it's tough to do thank you

3236
02:36:03,820 --> 02:36:01,310
yeah it's it's tougher than I thought

3237
02:36:05,410 --> 02:36:03,830
but I'm really getting I'm starting to

3238
02:36:07,630 --> 02:36:05,420
get the hang of it and really enjoying

3239
02:36:09,040 --> 02:36:07,640
it I just had just had the next episode

3240
02:36:11,170 --> 02:36:09,050
as with Mitch Horowitz oh I think you

3241
02:36:14,050 --> 02:36:11,180
just had on although it's just in town

3242
02:36:17,500 --> 02:36:14,060
did you go check him out oh he came by

3243
02:36:18,850 --> 02:36:17,510
he came by to hang out here and we had

3244
02:36:22,390 --> 02:36:18,860
some breakfast and recorded a podcast

3245
02:36:25,630 --> 02:36:22,400
he's a friend and a great guy he is he

3246
02:36:27,160 --> 02:36:25,640
is amazing amazing and you know most

3247
02:36:30,580 --> 02:36:27,170
people don't know this he's a hundred

3248
02:36:32,170 --> 02:36:30,590
and eighteen years old I believe it

3249
02:36:37,090 --> 02:36:32,180
that's the power of positive thinking

3250
02:36:41,770 --> 02:36:37,100
right there what kind of magic do you

3251
02:36:44,560 --> 02:36:41,780
practice well I've tried to practice

3252
02:36:48,420 --> 02:36:44,570
every single type of magic that I could

3253
02:36:51,460 --> 02:36:48,430
have been through so many systems from

3254
02:36:54,880 --> 02:36:51,470
Hermeticism to Kabbalah to to Hindu

3255
02:36:56,830 --> 02:36:54,890
Tantra to Buddhist Tantra to Sufi ISM to

3256
02:37:00,460 --> 02:36:56,840
even you know things like neuro

3257
02:37:04,360 --> 02:37:00,470
linguistic programming or vu d'en or you

3258
02:37:08,170 --> 02:37:04,370
know I've been all over the map and what

3259
02:37:11,950 --> 02:37:08,180
I've really come to is I think the core

3260
02:37:14,470 --> 02:37:11,960
is meditation and a single point of

3261
02:37:16,420 --> 02:37:14,480
focus that's really the core of it but

3262
02:37:18,970 --> 02:37:16,430
broadly speaking I would say you know

3263
02:37:21,070 --> 02:37:18,980
Western Western magic I've spent a lot

3264
02:37:25,840 --> 02:37:21,080
of time doing Enochian of course that

3265
02:37:28,870 --> 02:37:25,850
led into the John Dee book but my you

3266
02:37:31,870 --> 02:37:28,880
know as we as I think I was hinting at

3267
02:37:35,890 --> 02:37:31,880
earlier as you get more practiced with

3268
02:37:38,590 --> 02:37:35,900
magic you get the you you kind of lock

3269
02:37:40,390 --> 02:37:38,600
into the vibe and you lock into what the

3270
02:37:43,660 --> 02:37:40,400
process actually what you're actually

3271
02:37:46,990 --> 02:37:43,670
doing you know how your mind is actually

3272
02:37:50,261 --> 02:37:47,000
changing what the core of ritual is the

3273
02:37:52,780 --> 02:37:50,271
the you know that it's a focusing

3274
02:37:54,940 --> 02:37:52,790
mechanism and things like this and when

3275
02:37:58,090 --> 02:37:54,950
you really get it it's kind of like the

3276
02:38:00,460 --> 02:37:58,100
form stop mattering I would you know I

3277
02:38:02,230 --> 02:38:00,470
would certainly you know it's kind of

3278
02:38:03,940 --> 02:38:02,240
like when people get very very good at

3279
02:38:06,970 --> 02:38:03,950
martial arts and they train in a lot of

3280
02:38:09,160 --> 02:38:06,980
different martial arts it's it's no

3281
02:38:10,150 --> 02:38:09,170
longer necessarily recognized what

3282
02:38:12,160 --> 02:38:10,160
they're doing is not necessarily

3283
02:38:13,600 --> 02:38:12,170
recognizable as one school or the other

3284
02:38:15,820 --> 02:38:13,610
there's like a little bit here a little

3285
02:38:16,590 --> 02:38:15,830
bit there but it just seems kind of

3286
02:38:19,420 --> 02:38:16,600
effortless

3287
02:38:22,030 --> 02:38:19,430
I'm not you know trying to make myself

3288
02:38:25,420 --> 02:38:22,040
sound super cool I'm just saying this is

3289
02:38:28,570 --> 02:38:25,430
kind of like where magic gets to after a

3290
02:38:31,000 --> 02:38:28,580
long process you know long experience

3291
02:38:34,920 --> 02:38:31,010
it's it's not you know the props become

3292
02:38:39,250 --> 02:38:34,930
less important the all of the theory and

3293
02:38:42,070 --> 02:38:39,260
the academic minutia become less

3294
02:38:45,400 --> 02:38:42,080
important and it becomes more about how

3295
02:38:47,410 --> 02:38:45,410
you live your life that said I don't

3296
02:38:49,200 --> 02:38:47,420
want to totally take it away from the

3297
02:38:50,640 --> 02:38:49,210
technical processes of magic

3298
02:38:52,740 --> 02:38:50,650
on the other end of that we had people

3299
02:38:54,180 --> 02:38:52,750
who just say oh well my life is magical

3300
02:38:55,680 --> 02:38:54,190
and I just live a medical life it's not

3301
02:38:58,740 --> 02:38:55,690
like that either it actually is a

3302
02:39:00,870 --> 02:38:58,750
practice that has to be done and you can

3303
02:39:02,370 --> 02:39:00,880
do right or wrong there is a right

3304
02:39:04,260 --> 02:39:02,380
answer with these things and it is

3305
02:39:09,360 --> 02:39:04,270
something that requires practice just

3306
02:39:11,580 --> 02:39:09,370
like going to the gym does but so so for

3307
02:39:14,460 --> 02:39:11,590
me I'll just underline that the most

3308
02:39:17,100 --> 02:39:14,470
important things for me are keeping my

3309
02:39:21,630 --> 02:39:17,110
mind empty and not letting myself get

3310
02:39:23,660 --> 02:39:21,640
caught up in the chaos of of the mind or

3311
02:39:28,380 --> 02:39:23,670
getting pulled around by other people's

3312
02:39:31,110 --> 02:39:28,390
will and so meditation keeping the mind

3313
02:39:34,620 --> 02:39:31,120
empty total focus on whatever it is that

3314
02:39:36,360 --> 02:39:34,630
I happen to be doing and then expressing

3315
02:39:39,030 --> 02:39:36,370
my will into the world which I'm

3316
02:39:42,360 --> 02:39:39,040
currently doing obviously with my

3317
02:39:44,070 --> 02:39:42,370
podcast and my books and my web presence

3318
02:39:47,850 --> 02:39:44,080
and the company that I run that does all

3319
02:39:50,310 --> 02:39:47,860
these things and manifesting as much as

3320
02:39:55,380 --> 02:39:50,320
I can of myself in a way that I hope is

3321
02:39:58,410 --> 02:39:55,390
helpful and and manifesting my self in a

3322
02:40:02,250 --> 02:39:58,420
way that I hope brings other people up a

3323
02:40:05,400 --> 02:40:02,260
level and and brings them also along the

3324
02:40:07,650 --> 02:40:05,410
path of magic or spirituality it doesn't

3325
02:40:09,840 --> 02:40:07,660
have to be magic but that's kind of been

3326
02:40:12,719 --> 02:40:09,850
a major thing that I've done in my

3327
02:40:15,780 --> 02:40:12,729
magical career is try to open this to

3328
02:40:19,830 --> 02:40:15,790
everyone and not just myself did you go

3329
02:40:23,010 --> 02:40:19,840
through and explore some of the

3330
02:40:27,930 --> 02:40:23,020
traditional views of magic you know the

3331
02:40:31,860 --> 02:40:27,940
spells the powders the you know the

3332
02:40:34,020 --> 02:40:31,870
black candles the psychic I bookshop you

3333
02:40:35,400 --> 02:40:34,030
know that kind of thing yeah did you go

3334
02:40:37,200 --> 02:40:35,410
through that done all of it write down

3335
02:40:39,990 --> 02:40:37,210
all of it to me I've been through all of

3336
02:40:41,760 --> 02:40:40,000
it you know by the book you know so so

3337
02:40:44,490 --> 02:40:41,770
what I'm what I'm talking about is this

3338
02:40:47,340 --> 02:40:44,500
kind of you know I won't say effortless

3339
02:40:50,280 --> 02:40:47,350
but this kind of you know this kind of

3340
02:40:52,230 --> 02:40:50,290
empty handed understanding is not just

3341
02:40:53,910 --> 02:40:52,240
something that that's just how I do it

3342
02:40:56,670 --> 02:40:53,920
it's like that's what I've gotten to

3343
02:40:59,100 --> 02:40:56,680
from going through these things very

3344
02:41:02,120 --> 02:40:59,110
very rigorously and going into every

3345
02:41:04,610 --> 02:41:02,130
single nook and cranny of these things

3346
02:41:07,730 --> 02:41:04,620
and what what did you learn from that as

3347
02:41:10,520 --> 02:41:07,740
you you know you it's obviously a

3348
02:41:13,160 --> 02:41:10,530
transition right you're you're you're

3349
02:41:15,530 --> 02:41:13,170
going through and evolving what did you

3350
02:41:19,460 --> 02:41:15,540
learn from going through all of those

3351
02:41:21,380 --> 02:41:19,470
traditional views of magic so much so

3352
02:41:23,389 --> 02:41:21,390
much I mean every single tradition has a

3353
02:41:25,670 --> 02:41:23,399
major message to offer and then it's got

3354
02:41:27,920 --> 02:41:25,680
a lot of stuff there so I mean it's a

3355
02:41:29,510 --> 02:41:27,930
whole universe it's kind of impossible

3356
02:41:31,840 --> 02:41:29,520
to answer that question because it's

3357
02:41:34,670 --> 02:41:31,850
been my whole life but if I would

3358
02:41:36,170 --> 02:41:34,680
summarize some of it outside of what I

3359
02:41:42,530 --> 02:41:36,180
already said in terms of kind of what

3360
02:41:43,940 --> 02:41:42,540
I've come to its understanding hmm this

3361
02:41:46,730 --> 02:41:43,950
is an interesting question it's

3362
02:41:49,010 --> 02:41:46,740
understanding what is health what what

3363
02:41:52,520 --> 02:41:49,020
fosters human evolution and what does

3364
02:41:57,679 --> 02:41:52,530
not and understanding how important and

3365
02:41:59,780 --> 02:41:57,689
powerful the mind is and ultimately that

3366
02:42:03,740 --> 02:41:59,790
it is ours to direct and harness in the

3367
02:42:06,650 --> 02:42:03,750
way that we choose and that we but at a

3368
02:42:10,850 --> 02:42:06,660
certain point we can't just use these

3369
02:42:14,510 --> 02:42:10,860
things to gratify our own desires that

3370
02:42:17,240 --> 02:42:14,520
real magic you know capital M magic is

3371
02:42:19,000 --> 02:42:17,250
about doing whatever you can to assist

3372
02:42:21,940 --> 02:42:19,010
the evolution of humanity as a whole

3373
02:42:25,100 --> 02:42:21,950
that's the key to the whole thing and

3374
02:42:28,429 --> 02:42:25,110
being in a role of service and that's

3375
02:42:32,120 --> 02:42:28,439
what I tried to do and that's the point

3376
02:42:33,740 --> 02:42:32,130
is moving humanity along because frankly

3377
02:42:36,710 --> 02:42:33,750
speaking we probably don't have a whole

3378
02:42:39,290 --> 02:42:36,720
lot of time left so there's not a whole

3379
02:42:43,969 --> 02:42:39,300
lot of time to kind of put on airs and

3380
02:42:46,580 --> 02:42:43,979
and you know mess around you know it's

3381
02:42:47,990 --> 02:42:46,590
we have some serious crises ahead of us

3382
02:42:50,450 --> 02:42:48,000
in the 21st century and we need

3383
02:42:54,370 --> 02:42:50,460
conscious people in order to fully face

3384
02:42:57,440 --> 02:42:54,380
them and when it comes to things like

3385
02:42:59,780 --> 02:42:57,450
white magic and black magic these are

3386
02:43:03,679 --> 02:42:59,790
terms that we've heard over and over

3387
02:43:07,400 --> 02:43:03,689
again is that real or are those just

3388
02:43:08,840 --> 02:43:07,410
words and classifications I'll give you

3389
02:43:10,910 --> 02:43:08,850
my definition of it I've actually got a

3390
02:43:12,889 --> 02:43:10,920
whole podcast on this and it's my

3391
02:43:14,810 --> 02:43:12,899
probably my most loved podcast ever on

3392
02:43:17,660 --> 02:43:14,820
my on my show which just

3393
02:43:19,671 --> 02:43:17,670
white magic versus black magic my my

3394
02:43:24,020 --> 02:43:19,681
broadly speaking my definition is that

3395
02:43:28,041 --> 02:43:24,030
white black magic is when you use magic

3396
02:43:30,560 --> 02:43:28,051
to try to get your way and fulfill your

3397
02:43:33,110 --> 02:43:30,570
selfish desires and white magic is when

3398
02:43:34,850 --> 02:43:33,120
you get out of your own way and humble

3399
02:43:36,761 --> 02:43:34,860
yourself enough to accept what the

3400
02:43:40,011 --> 02:43:36,771
universe is trying to give you already

3401
02:43:43,011 --> 02:43:40,021
and expand on that a little bit that

3402
02:43:46,820 --> 02:43:43,021
that's that's that's pretty cool so

3403
02:43:52,400 --> 02:43:46,830
let's expand on that so why why has

3404
02:43:57,140 --> 02:43:52,410
society a black magic being evil right

3405
02:44:02,421 --> 02:43:57,150
well for to to use it for yourself is

3406
02:44:05,330 --> 02:44:02,431
that necessarily evil or no no no no

3407
02:44:07,400 --> 02:44:05,340
it's it's more about what the real crux

3408
02:44:11,301 --> 02:44:07,410
of that is is how you define yourself

3409
02:44:13,310 --> 02:44:11,311
because your true self is far beyond the

3410
02:44:15,801 --> 02:44:13,320
limited story that you tell yourself

3411
02:44:17,001 --> 02:44:15,811
about who you think you are and this is

3412
02:44:19,370 --> 02:44:17,011
where the wisdom comes in and the

3413
02:44:23,450 --> 02:44:19,380
enlightenment you have to you know your

3414
02:44:27,650 --> 02:44:23,460
true self Capital self L capital S self

3415
02:44:30,470 --> 02:44:27,660
I almost said elf is beyond the mind it

3416
02:44:33,410 --> 02:44:30,480
exists it's post-linguistic it exists

3417
02:44:36,320 --> 02:44:33,420
beyond your limited story about who you

3418
02:44:37,970 --> 02:44:36,330
are everyone lives in a cage right most

3419
02:44:40,430 --> 02:44:37,980
human beings live in a prison

3420
02:44:42,530 --> 02:44:40,440
constructed of language constructed of

3421
02:44:45,080 --> 02:44:42,540
stories told to them by other people or

3422
02:44:47,480 --> 02:44:45,090
by themselves or by the media or by the

3423
02:44:48,921 --> 02:44:47,490
internet usually the story starts with

3424
02:44:51,410 --> 02:44:48,931
their parents and then their teachers

3425
02:44:53,660 --> 02:44:51,420
and their peers and they they're sold an

3426
02:44:57,140 --> 02:44:53,670
identity of who they are but it's just a

3427
02:44:59,810 --> 02:44:57,150
story the true human self is beyond all

3428
02:45:02,570 --> 02:44:59,820
of that and if you're not acting from

3429
02:45:05,240 --> 02:45:02,580
that then what you're really doing by

3430
02:45:07,700 --> 02:45:05,250
doing magic is reinforcing the desires

3431
02:45:08,360 --> 02:45:07,710
of a personality that was false to begin

3432
02:45:10,700 --> 02:45:08,370
with

3433
02:45:14,020 --> 02:45:10,710
I don't and I know we could talk about

3434
02:45:16,400 --> 02:45:14,030
the philosophy of this forever but

3435
02:45:18,171 --> 02:45:16,410
really the you know when we start to

3436
02:45:18,470 --> 02:45:18,181
talk about enlightenment and things like

3437
02:45:22,360 --> 02:45:18,480
that

3438
02:45:25,370 --> 02:45:22,370
it's about completely overcoming the

3439
02:45:26,910 --> 02:45:25,380
story of who you think you are because

3440
02:45:30,480 --> 02:45:26,920
it's just a fiction we're all

3441
02:45:34,160 --> 02:45:30,490
beings and the fictions are conspiracies

3442
02:45:36,390 --> 02:45:34,170
created not by sinister governments but

3443
02:45:39,210 --> 02:45:36,400
conspirators conspires to create a

3444
02:45:41,940 --> 02:45:39,220
fiction including us conspires to create

3445
02:45:44,550 --> 02:45:41,950
this fictional being called jasonlew or

3446
02:45:48,110 --> 02:45:44,560
jimmy church you know and ultimately our

3447
02:45:51,830 --> 02:45:48,120
true nature is infinite divine and

3448
02:45:54,690 --> 02:45:51,840
untouched and is and unchanging and

3449
02:45:57,210 --> 02:45:54,700
temporarily manifests as a temporary

3450
02:46:01,590 --> 02:45:57,220
personality to experience human life

3451
02:46:05,969 --> 02:46:01,600
this is a you know the dontoh core a

3452
02:46:08,160 --> 02:46:05,979
yogic way of looking at it and so when

3453
02:46:10,530 --> 02:46:08,170
we really you know the whole idea of

3454
02:46:13,260 --> 02:46:10,540
black magic is largely a creation of

3455
02:46:15,450 --> 02:46:13,270
Hollywood it you know there are

3456
02:46:17,010 --> 02:46:15,460
certainly people who believe that there

3457
02:46:18,719 --> 02:46:17,020
are black magicians but by and large

3458
02:46:20,610 --> 02:46:18,729
there are Dungeons and Dragons birds who

3459
02:46:22,920 --> 02:46:20,620
have just got off on a tangent of taking

3460
02:46:26,850 --> 02:46:22,930
themselves way too seriously the real

3461
02:46:31,130 --> 02:46:26,860
black magic is when we waste our lives

3462
02:46:34,620 --> 02:46:31,140
by pursuing desires that are beneath us

3463
02:46:36,990 --> 02:46:34,630
when we waste our lives by putting all

3464
02:46:41,160 --> 02:46:37,000
of our energy into the lowest parts of

3465
02:46:43,140 --> 02:46:41,170
our personality or just doing things

3466
02:46:45,870 --> 02:46:43,150
that are pleasurable in the moment but

3467
02:46:49,860 --> 02:46:45,880
are not truly living up to the person

3468
02:46:51,990 --> 02:46:49,870
that we truly could be if we really try

3469
02:46:53,910 --> 02:46:52,000
it or we we truly lived up to it and

3470
02:46:55,710 --> 02:46:53,920
that's what white magic is why magic is

3471
02:46:58,260 --> 02:46:55,720
about evolution it's about and it's

3472
02:47:00,360 --> 02:46:58,270
certainly not easy it's about trying to

3473
02:47:02,900 --> 02:47:00,370
become the best person you possibly can

3474
02:47:05,400 --> 02:47:02,910
and the most help hopefully to the world

3475
02:47:07,950 --> 02:47:05,410
well wouldn't that be enlightened

3476
02:47:10,940 --> 02:47:07,960
self-interest which would be a form of

3477
02:47:16,200 --> 02:47:13,170
well enlightened self-interest is in

3478
02:47:19,020 --> 02:47:16,210
economic terms so kind of crossing the

3479
02:47:21,660 --> 02:47:19,030
streams here what about and this just

3480
02:47:23,670 --> 02:47:21,670
came in from Cosmo who's obviously on

3481
02:47:26,040 --> 02:47:23,680
top of his game in listening to this he

3482
02:47:28,410 --> 02:47:26,050
said and then there's red magic there

3483
02:47:31,200 --> 02:47:28,420
was a famous sorcerer from Egypt called

3484
02:47:33,660 --> 02:47:31,210
Al Tookie who practiced that are we

3485
02:47:37,200 --> 02:47:33,670
talking about Magic the Gathering I'm

3486
02:47:38,910 --> 02:47:37,210
just reading his question I don't know

3487
02:47:39,630 --> 02:47:38,920
what I don't I don't know that person or

3488
02:47:40,530 --> 02:47:39,640
what that means

3489
02:47:43,950 --> 02:47:40,540
okay so you've now

3490
02:47:46,440 --> 02:47:43,960
herd of red magic only in fantasy games

3491
02:47:50,220 --> 02:47:46,450
oh how so

3492
02:47:51,960 --> 02:47:50,230
enlighten me oh there's a famous card

3493
02:47:55,560 --> 02:47:51,970
game from the 90s called Magic the

3494
02:47:58,400 --> 02:47:55,570
Gathering which has different colors of

3495
02:48:01,470 --> 02:47:58,410
magic red red white black blue and green

3496
02:48:03,570 --> 02:48:01,480
very interesting Jason but it's just a

3497
02:48:06,710 --> 02:48:03,580
game you know thank you so much how are

3498
02:48:09,360 --> 02:48:06,720
you gonna celebrate Halloween this week

3499
02:48:14,340 --> 02:48:09,370
good question probably by working on my

3500
02:48:16,980 --> 02:48:14,350
podcast right and I wanted to ask you I

3501
02:48:20,340 --> 02:48:16,990
didn't did you attend any Halloween

3502
02:48:23,040 --> 02:48:20,350
parties not yet but hope springs eternal

3503
02:48:24,540 --> 02:48:23,050
even for one as introverted as myself

3504
02:48:25,470 --> 02:48:24,550
well and I want to know and so does

3505
02:48:30,660 --> 02:48:25,480
everybody else

3506
02:48:34,050 --> 02:48:30,670
Oh who what's your costume I never I

3507
02:48:35,670 --> 02:48:34,060
never dress up I never dress up why I

3508
02:48:37,320 --> 02:48:35,680
know I know I know

3509
02:48:41,700 --> 02:48:37,330
see this is what I'm talking about I'm a

3510
02:48:43,200 --> 02:48:41,710
very very Monday in person but my my you

3511
02:48:44,640 --> 02:48:43,210
know the rest of the the rest of the

3512
02:48:47,761 --> 02:48:44,650
year is so strange for me that I just

3513
02:48:49,770 --> 02:48:47,771
don't feel a need to set aside a you

3514
02:48:50,670 --> 02:48:49,780
know to dress up and be you know try to

3515
02:48:52,860 --> 02:48:50,680
be something that I'm not

3516
02:48:55,170 --> 02:48:52,870
oh stop you know who I'm gonna be this

3517
02:48:59,130 --> 02:48:55,180
year I did this if you're gonna I'm

3518
02:49:00,720 --> 02:48:59,140
gonna be fat Elvis what should I dress

3519
02:49:03,810 --> 02:49:00,730
up as Jimmy maybe these people can

3520
02:49:06,660 --> 02:49:03,820
recommend on Twitter you know you know

3521
02:49:08,430 --> 02:49:06,670
what's so funny when you said that you I

3522
02:49:11,370 --> 02:49:08,440
don't know if you were joking but when

3523
02:49:14,280 --> 02:49:11,380
you were kid you did you would dress up

3524
02:49:18,270 --> 02:49:14,290
as a vampire you would meet you would be

3525
02:49:21,120 --> 02:49:18,280
the the perfect vampire that's oh that's

3526
02:49:23,840 --> 02:49:21,130
true I've been watching I became

3527
02:49:25,710 --> 02:49:23,850
convinced I think I'd had a few drinks a

3528
02:49:27,720 --> 02:49:25,720
couple weeks ago I was completely

3529
02:49:29,310 --> 02:49:27,730
convinced I was a vampire it was a very

3530
02:49:31,440 --> 02:49:29,320
very strange state of mind

3531
02:49:34,200 --> 02:49:31,450
and I've been watching vampire movies

3532
02:49:36,420 --> 02:49:34,210
all all all month because it is how it

3533
02:49:39,900 --> 02:49:36,430
is it is October so that's a good idea

3534
02:49:42,750 --> 02:49:39,910
there you know one last question on this

3535
02:49:46,290 --> 02:49:42,760
vein there is when you mention like

3536
02:49:50,190 --> 02:49:46,300
paranormal activity and but there is a

3537
02:49:52,650 --> 02:49:50,200
genuine fascination with vampirism on

3538
02:49:53,520 --> 02:49:52,660
this planet it doesn't matter if you're

3539
02:49:56,390 --> 02:49:53,530
from the Caribbean

3540
02:50:02,450 --> 02:49:56,400
in or if you're from Northern Europe

3541
02:50:06,740 --> 02:50:02,460
there is North America of vampirism and

3542
02:50:10,100 --> 02:50:06,750
there is parts of it that are rooted in

3543
02:50:15,350 --> 02:50:10,110
historical fact what is the fascination

3544
02:50:23,190 --> 02:50:19,890
practicing magic or or Christian or not

3545
02:50:25,530 --> 02:50:23,200
or a theater is this thing when it comes

3546
02:50:28,850 --> 02:50:25,540
to vampires and I don't know if it as

3547
02:50:31,261 --> 02:50:28,860
certainly we have Dracula but you know

3548
02:50:34,080 --> 02:50:31,271
interview with the vampire and the Anne

3549
02:50:36,390 --> 02:50:34,090
Rice novels all the way through True

3550
02:50:39,180 --> 02:50:36,400
Blood all the way to there are many

3551
02:50:42,270 --> 02:50:39,190
television series you know based on this

3552
02:50:45,690 --> 02:50:42,280
what is our our popular cultures

3553
02:50:47,910 --> 02:50:45,700
fascination with this well it's

3554
02:50:50,190 --> 02:50:47,920
fascinating because the the whole story

3555
02:50:52,501 --> 02:50:50,200
of the vampire has been with us for like

3556
02:50:54,211 --> 02:50:52,511
you like you mentioned a long time I

3557
02:50:58,650 --> 02:50:54,221
mean people were talking about vampires

3558
02:51:01,440 --> 02:50:58,660
in in Rome it's it's it's been around a

3559
02:51:03,330 --> 02:51:01,450
long time and there's you know there's

3560
02:51:04,950 --> 02:51:03,340
archaeological evidence I think even in

3561
02:51:06,690 --> 02:51:04,960
Eastern Europe of people you know

3562
02:51:07,650 --> 02:51:06,700
digging out corpses and staking them

3563
02:51:10,290 --> 02:51:07,660
because they thought they were gonna

3564
02:51:12,660 --> 02:51:10,300
raise from the dead obviously this is

3565
02:51:15,421 --> 02:51:12,670
more likely a product of superstition

3566
02:51:18,570 --> 02:51:15,431
and lack of medical information and mass

3567
02:51:20,850 --> 02:51:18,580
hysteria than anything else but I've

3568
02:51:26,761 --> 02:51:20,860
thought about this a lot and I think

3569
02:51:29,910 --> 02:51:26,771
that you know vampires fascinate us

3570
02:51:34,230 --> 02:51:29,920
because there are lots of people who are

3571
02:51:37,381 --> 02:51:34,240
vampires in the sense of their predatory

3572
02:51:39,410 --> 02:51:37,391
and you know I think that humanity if

3573
02:51:43,830 --> 02:51:39,420
you really take a broader view on it

3574
02:51:45,751 --> 02:51:43,840
there are predator humans there are you

3575
02:51:48,270 --> 02:51:45,761
know some humans are you know very nice

3576
02:51:50,610 --> 02:51:48,280
and docile and social and then there are

3577
02:51:54,751 --> 02:51:50,620
definitely some people who are

3578
02:51:57,301 --> 02:51:54,761
absolutely predatory in Outlook and we

3579
02:51:59,671 --> 02:51:57,311
might call that you know sociopathy or

3580
02:52:01,501 --> 02:51:59,681
or psychopathy or something like that

3581
02:52:03,480 --> 02:52:01,511
but I think it's a little bit deeper

3582
02:52:05,600 --> 02:52:03,490
than that there are definitely some

3583
02:52:07,581 --> 02:52:05,610
people who see it as their role in life

3584
02:52:09,921 --> 02:52:07,591
to feed on other people and I don't mean

3585
02:52:13,131 --> 02:52:09,931
that literally but I mean that in the

3586
02:52:14,720 --> 02:52:13,141
sense of they're hunters and you could

3587
02:52:16,400 --> 02:52:14,730
might meet these people in a corporate

3588
02:52:20,530 --> 02:52:16,410
environment you know like a Wall Street

3589
02:52:24,190 --> 02:52:20,540
or just I don't know like a you know a

3590
02:52:27,051 --> 02:52:24,200
terrible boss or you know in many cases

3591
02:52:29,690 --> 02:52:27,061
people get into relationships with or

3592
02:52:31,251 --> 02:52:29,700
marry people who are like this and I'm

3593
02:52:33,200 --> 02:52:31,261
sure lots of people can think of

3594
02:52:35,060 --> 02:52:33,210
instances in their own life where

3595
02:52:37,520 --> 02:52:35,070
they've come across that I mean there

3596
02:52:40,070 --> 02:52:37,530
are people who are absolutely vampires

3597
02:52:42,200 --> 02:52:40,080
in the sense that they draw their energy

3598
02:52:43,671 --> 02:52:42,210
from other human beings you know we all

3599
02:52:49,970 --> 02:52:43,681
have a choice of where we draw energy

3600
02:52:52,220 --> 02:52:49,980
from many of us draw energy from love or

3601
02:52:55,131 --> 02:52:52,230
work our sense of value from our work

3602
02:52:56,990 --> 02:52:55,141
from nature from hobbies that we enjoy

3603
02:52:59,930 --> 02:52:57,000
but there are absolutely some people

3604
02:53:01,970 --> 02:52:59,940
that draw energy from preying on other

3605
02:53:04,581 --> 02:53:01,980
people and I mean that's psychologically

3606
02:53:06,440 --> 02:53:04,591
right and with their behavior not like

3607
02:53:08,751 --> 02:53:06,450
they're drinking their blood but you

3608
02:53:10,850 --> 02:53:08,761
know we've all met people like that are

3609
02:53:14,060 --> 02:53:10,860
you going to be speaking anytime soon

3610
02:53:16,341 --> 02:53:14,070
any public stuff I hope so I hope so

3611
02:53:21,770 --> 02:53:16,351
yeah okay all right well there it is

3612
02:53:24,140 --> 02:53:21,780
it's Jason lucam and the podcast the

3613
02:53:25,881 --> 02:53:24,150
webcast everything is over there too as

3614
02:53:28,671 --> 02:53:25,891
well everybody go check it out Jason

3615
02:53:31,100 --> 02:53:28,681
enjoy your Halloween and and do your

3616
02:53:32,660 --> 02:53:31,110
thing man it's always great having you

3617
02:53:35,150 --> 02:53:32,670
on with me thank you so much

3618
02:53:38,001 --> 02:53:35,160
Thank You Jamie that was fun you're the

3619
02:53:41,900 --> 02:53:38,011
best Halloween happy Halloween to you

3620
02:53:44,990 --> 02:53:41,910
Jason Lou everybody Jason lucam and you

3621
02:53:49,370 --> 02:53:45,000
can follow Jason on twitter at jason

3622
02:53:51,291 --> 02:53:49,380
louvre too as well and just to wrap up a

3623
02:53:53,870 --> 02:53:51,301
couple of things i want to stress with

3624
02:53:56,690 --> 02:53:53,880
everybody this week is going to be

3625
02:53:59,001 --> 02:53:56,700
amazing here on the show tonight it was

3626
02:54:02,030 --> 02:53:59,011
jason Leuven we discussed every aspect

3627
02:54:04,100 --> 02:54:02,040
of Halloween tomorrow night Maureen wood

3628
02:54:07,390 --> 02:54:04,110
is going to be here now she just

3629
02:54:11,440 --> 02:54:07,400
co-authored a new book and it's called

3630
02:54:16,871 --> 02:54:11,450
oh man I just I just lost it

3631
02:54:19,501 --> 02:54:16,881
cold stories out Rita I lost it it was

3632
02:54:21,881 --> 02:54:19,511
right on the tip of my tongue anyway

3633
02:54:23,530 --> 02:54:21,891
Maureen wood is going to be with us here

3634
02:54:26,501 --> 02:54:23,540
tomorrow night and one of the things

3635
02:54:29,530 --> 02:54:26,511
that I wanted to do was to set aside one

3636
02:54:32,680 --> 02:54:29,540
night this week where we could just sit

3637
02:54:34,690 --> 02:54:32,690
and listen to ghost stories so that's

3638
02:54:38,261 --> 02:54:34,700
what we're gonna do tomorrow night with

3639
02:54:41,470 --> 02:54:38,271
Maureen and then everybody Wednesday

3640
02:54:45,551 --> 02:54:41,480
night ha the Loon which is going to be

3641
02:54:47,770 --> 02:54:45,561
here if you haven't sat through our

3642
02:54:50,711 --> 02:54:47,780
Halloween special wish ah the Loon which

3643
02:54:54,270 --> 02:54:50,721
I'm gonna prepare you for this now we

3644
02:54:57,610 --> 02:54:54,280
are going to take over 100 phone calls

3645
02:55:01,570 --> 02:54:57,620
to listen to this happen over a three

3646
02:55:04,360 --> 02:55:01,580
hour period which is amazing she is

3647
02:55:08,740 --> 02:55:04,370
going to do a reading three cards boom

3648
02:55:12,310 --> 02:55:08,750
and and do this with everybody it within

3649
02:55:13,990 --> 02:55:12,320
seconds and you've got to get ready

3650
02:55:16,841 --> 02:55:14,000
you've got to line up you've got to get

3651
02:55:18,700 --> 02:55:16,851
ready early and and and get in line on

3652
02:55:19,631 --> 02:55:18,710
the phones it's gonna be absolutely

3653
02:55:22,511 --> 02:55:19,641
incredible

3654
02:55:25,751 --> 02:55:22,521
so that is Wednesday night and then

3655
02:55:28,831 --> 02:55:25,761
Thursday Adrienne Valera is going to be

3656
02:55:33,461 --> 02:55:28,841
here now what is going to be going on on

3657
02:55:36,100 --> 02:55:33,471
11/11 at 11:00 11:00 is in Washington DC

3658
02:55:38,410 --> 02:55:36,110
it's going to be a mass meditation at

3659
02:55:41,921 --> 02:55:38,420
the Lincoln Memorial

3660
02:55:44,200 --> 02:55:41,931
so all not all of but we have about a

3661
02:55:46,121 --> 02:55:44,210
half a dozen guests that are lined up

3662
02:55:48,310 --> 02:55:46,131
this is for Thursday night on fader

3663
02:55:50,291 --> 02:55:48,320
night we have about a half a dozen

3664
02:55:53,110 --> 02:55:50,301
guests that are going to be here with us

3665
02:55:56,051 --> 02:55:53,120
I'll reveal everything tomorrow night

3666
02:55:58,211 --> 02:55:56,061
we're lining up guests now but I think

3667
02:56:00,610 --> 02:55:58,221
we have everything done oh here it is

3668
02:56:03,070 --> 02:56:00,620
here thank you it is more ghost

3669
02:56:05,740 --> 02:56:03,080
Chronicles that's what happens after I

3670
02:56:08,020 --> 02:56:05,750
do with three hours show I'm a little

3671
02:56:10,841 --> 02:56:08,030
bit brain dead it's more ghost

3672
02:56:14,320 --> 02:56:10,851
Chronicles and Maureen wood and her

3673
02:56:17,470 --> 02:56:14,330
co-author Ron Kolok Ron cannot be with

3674
02:56:18,910 --> 02:56:17,480
us tomorrow night but Maureen will be

3675
02:56:21,760 --> 02:56:18,920
here and

3676
02:56:24,030 --> 02:56:21,770
it's funny stories from the realm of the

3677
02:56:26,110 --> 02:56:24,040
unknown the unexplained and the

3678
02:56:28,389 --> 02:56:26,120
unbelievable and we're going to be doing

3679
02:56:31,420 --> 02:56:28,399
her favorite ghost stories from this

3680
02:56:34,269 --> 02:56:31,430
book and the original goes to Chronicles

3681
02:56:36,160 --> 02:56:34,279
so there you go that's our week here on

3682
02:56:40,809 --> 02:56:36,170
fade to black now I want to back up

3683
02:56:43,120 --> 02:56:40,819
really quick and touch upon what I had

3684
02:56:47,229 --> 02:56:43,130
said at the beginning of this show

3685
02:56:50,290 --> 02:56:47,239
tonight and this is serious there is a

3686
02:56:55,149 --> 02:56:50,300
lot of negativity right now that is not

3687
02:56:59,800 --> 02:56:55,159
only going around this planet but also

3688
02:57:03,160 --> 02:56:59,810
inside of our community here and I quite

3689
02:57:07,330 --> 02:57:03,170
honestly I don't get involved with it

3690
02:57:09,519 --> 02:57:07,340
there has been so many emails and

3691
02:57:12,729 --> 02:57:09,529
prodding encode trying to get me to

3692
02:57:15,700 --> 02:57:12,739
respond or comment or get involved with

3693
02:57:19,479 --> 02:57:15,710
and I've got to go back and just say to

3694
02:57:23,349 --> 02:57:19,489
all of you I'm not I'm not concerned I

3695
02:57:27,130 --> 02:57:23,359
really honestly don't care it's not

3696
02:57:29,830 --> 02:57:27,140
healthy the negativity and the hate that

3697
02:57:32,410 --> 02:57:29,840
is is going around and the divisive miss

3698
02:57:36,700 --> 02:57:32,420
not only in our country but on this

3699
02:57:39,880 --> 02:57:36,710
planet has permeated and gotten into our

3700
02:57:42,330 --> 02:57:39,890
UFO community and we quite simply we

3701
02:57:44,920 --> 02:57:42,340
don't need it we don't care about it and

3702
02:57:46,840 --> 02:57:44,930
this is something that I'm not going to

3703
02:57:49,210 --> 02:57:46,850
come and on and it ain't gonna happen

3704
02:57:51,729 --> 02:57:49,220
it's not what this show was about this

3705
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show is about positivity exploring and

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acquiring knowledge and trying to figure

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stuff out

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it's nothing negative and we'll never be

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that

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however this show is about it's not how

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I live my life and I will always project

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that alright I want to be very very

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clear so if you are concerned about that

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I'll say it again man it's easy to block

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and and and and delete and unfriend

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because that's I just don't have time

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for it I don't and I'm not going to pass

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that on to this community and that's

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where I come from and it's never going

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to change

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this is fade to blah

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I'm arrows Jimmy church tomorrow night

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marinwood

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more ghost chronicles night two of

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Halloween week right here on fade to

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black

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theta blocks executive producer is

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Riddick amore on shows produced by

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hilton jaipur na Dennis and Bob

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Marty colbaugh webmaster drew the geek

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music Doug alder it's intro space boys

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space boy music calm fade to black is

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produced by kjsurya and syndication is

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kg RA the planet thank you to jasonlew

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jasonlew L o UV Jason lucam this

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broadcasts on copyright of 2018 by fade

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to black in the game changer Network

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it cannot be rebroadcast download a copy

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to use anywhere in the known universe

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without written permission from fade to

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black of the game changer Network I'm

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Yours Jim you Church follow me on

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twitter @ JT radio everybody be safe

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